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Old June 22 2012, 06:27 PM   #1
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Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

Okay, so I realize that he had to regenerate during the sixth season, but I recently saw the seventh season episode "Imperfection". Inwhich Seven's Cordical Implant malfuntions, and because it's broken she can't regenerate. Well to save her, Icheb gives her his implant. You can go on Memory Alpha to learn more about the episode or just watch it.

Now he's surviving without an implant, so does he need to regenerate anymore? Because it seems that it's essential for regeneration.

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Old June 22 2012, 06:50 PM   #2
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

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Okay, so I realize that he had to regenerate during the sixth season, but I recently saw the seventh season episode "Imperfection". Inwhich Seven's Cordical Implant malfuntions, and because it's broken she can't regenerate. Well to save her, Icheb gives her his implant. You can go on Memory Alpha to learn more about the episode or just watch it.

Now he's surviving without an implant, so does he need to regenerate anymore? Because it seems that it's essential for regeneration.

Thanks!
We don't see too much of Icheb after this, I don't believe, but, I seem to recall at least one time, I would've expected to see him Regenerating alongside her, and he was nowhere in sight, so, yea maybe, it was no longer necessary
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Old June 23 2012, 01:08 AM   #3
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

Icheb was much younger than Seven and had less-extensive implants. Maybe the Doctor found a way for him to sleep naturally. Or maybe he and Seven decided to rig him up a regeneration unit elsewhere to give both of them some privacy.
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Old June 24 2012, 03:39 AM   #4
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

Is regeneration sleep?

The argument can be made that Drones are "Awake" during the regeneration process.

At least their bodies remain awake while their minds go somewhere else.

Where does Seven's mind go now that Unimatrix Zero has been demolished?

The Borg must have had out of body work details that they should have gotten annoyed that her psyche never turned up for the swing shift while her body was regenerating... If her mind had no where to go to, because she is not Borg, and it stayed in her body, then Seven would have been awake rather than seemingly asleep while her mind was empty.

ICHEB: You took these scans of me when I left the Collective. By your own estimation I emerged from my maturation chamber before I was fully assimilated. As a result my physiology is less dependent on my implants.
EMH: They still regulate many of your vital functions.
ICHEB: What about my age? I'm younger, so it should be easier for my body to adapt to the loss.
EMH: You're obviously too young to understand the risks involved.
ICHEB: I understand the risks perfectly. If we continue to do nothing, Seven will die.
EMH: And if we proceed with your idea, you could both die!
ICHEB: According to my research, there's an eighty six point nine percent chance that Seven's implants will adapt to my node.
EMH: Eighty-six
ICHEB: Point nine.
EMH: What about you. Without a cortical node how will you regulate your implants?
ICHEB: You should be able to compensate with genetic resequencing. This isn't suicide, Doctor. I believe it can work. All I ask is that you consider it.
Um?

Seven could wander into Unimatrix Zero despite that her subspace radio antenna had been disabled, so really what ever tech had her mind subconsciously connected to and driving offsite/remote Borg mechanisms during regeneration was still active till at least the end of season 6 that she could have been acting as a widget or an engine fulfilling any number of Borg Agendas the whole time little orphan Annie was on board Voyager.

She was only half free.
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Old June 24 2012, 04:23 AM   #5
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

I saw Icheb yesterday at the convention.



He showed us an excerpt of everything he's done since Voyager. I missed half of it because I was tying my shoes.

Anyway he didn't seem to have regenerated a whole lot to me.
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Old June 24 2012, 05:02 AM   #6
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

Really, the stills I saw of Manu over on IMDB floored me.

Although if you take 7 thousand snapshots in an antiseptically controlled situation, you're bound to find perhaps 3 usable shots.
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Old June 24 2012, 05:14 AM   #7
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Just had a look. Helluva lot of furrowing.

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Old June 24 2012, 06:32 AM   #8
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The Rugged man's man, 80s areosolized scotch aftershave print advertisement look doesn't ring your bell?

It was the change which was so startling.

Speaking of the greying side of transition, have you seen Edward Furlong recently?

Little Johnny Connor now looks like your local friendly nighbourhood meth dealer.
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Old June 28 2012, 01:29 AM   #9
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

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I saw Icheb yesterday at the convention.



He showed us an excerpt of everything he's done since Voyager. I missed half of it because I was tying my shoes.
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Old June 28 2012, 01:32 AM   #10
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Remember when we were sure that the future would all be about velcro?
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Old June 28 2012, 01:46 AM   #11
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Okay, so I realize that he had to regenerate during the sixth season, but I recently saw the seventh season episode "Imperfection". Inwhich Seven's Cordical Implant malfuntions, and because it's broken she can't regenerate. Well to save her, Icheb gives her his implant. You can go on Memory Alpha to learn more about the episode or just watch it.

Now he's surviving without an implant, so does he need to regenerate anymore? Because it seems that it's essential for regeneration.

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This is a really good question.
I guess we'll never know.
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Old July 3 2012, 01:32 PM   #12
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

Glad to see I am not the only one that disliked this 'Icheb'. Apart from his name being all wrong, his intelligence and high nose made him the perfect snob. Evil.

Q2 was much better.
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Old July 4 2012, 12:26 AM   #13
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

I LOVED ICHEB.

Just so you all know. I thought he was a great gawky adolescent. I might have been meh about him though if not for his tragic personal story.
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Old July 4 2012, 04:33 PM   #14
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Re: Does Icheb have to Regenerate?

He's aged better than Robert Beltram- anyway make-up can do anything.
The trick where Echeb can remove his cortical node had to do with genetic sequencing. His body lost the ability to continue without implants because of the cortical node. If it was removed, then he was vibrant enough to regrow his cerebral tissue. His re-sequencing came as a result of fluids and cerebral scanning.
Today he looks normal.
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Old July 7 2012, 08:34 PM   #15
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I LOVED ICHEB.

Just so you all know. I thought he was a great gawky adolescent. I might have been meh about him though if not for his tragic personal story.
Yeah, I like Ichy too.
I agree, "Child's Play" really sold me on the character.
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