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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
C+ 0 0%
C 4 1.25%
C- 1 0.31%
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Old June 20 2012, 03:40 AM   #1411
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At the same time the alien "soldiers" were pure cannon fodder, only there for the express purpose of occupying the forces of those they were fighting while the heavier machinery did the bulk of the work for their ultimate goal. So police/military could have aided but it ultimately wouldn't help and would just be doing exactly what the Chitauri were there for, to die for the progression of their goals.
The only supervillain there that might have been able to quickly kill any of the Avengers was Loki, but he ended up being owned by Hulk rather spectacularly. Part of me wishes he had been able to do more, but that scene with Hulk was just so great not to have.
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Old June 20 2012, 03:59 AM   #1412
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If shield has a helicarrier they must have some planes on it. The other shield agents should be well trained in combat too right?

Even so, it just didn't seem like special skills or powers were needed. Also Cap got shot in the stomach and pretty much shrugged it off.

The aliens were weak.
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Old June 20 2012, 04:00 AM   #1413
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No, I was afraid all that physical labor would sprain my thumb.
I know you're hot for Loki but...

You know what, I won't go that low brow.
I'm not so busy with work this week that I can't find time to stuff you into the recycle bin.
I've got a rather off-color response for that too.

But, again, I will postpone.
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Old June 20 2012, 12:35 PM   #1414
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Howdy peoples! Seen the movie yesterday and thought it was about average. Couldn't understand why the Avengers were the only ones fighting the invaders, especially since the aliens were so weak. If Black Widow's hand guns had no problem bringing them down I would imagine our troops would've laid them waste.
I forget the exact wording but the the two cops we meet trying to manage the chaos mention that "the national guard is on it's way or an hour away", not sure which. So no doubt had our military shown up then the foot soldiers could've been dealt with. The flying slug though was quite armored as even IM was waiting for chinks to develop before shooting them.

As far as the Helicarrier I'm guessing the planes on there were mostly damaged and/or personnel injured. Therefore keeping the Helicarrier out of the action. The unauthorized launch by the one with the nuke lets you know that the Deck was locked down for some reason(s). I'm guessing cause so much chaos was still in affect from the Loki breakout. The scenes are nearly back-to-back.
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Old June 20 2012, 12:47 PM   #1415
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Well they do show the military eventually showing up and joining the fight in Manhattan.
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Old June 20 2012, 01:42 PM   #1416
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BW and Hawkeye were good at fighting the aliens because they were both elite assassins, they were top-tier military personnel trained and honed to do these very things...
No, BW's handguns were one of the very few issues I had with the movie. A 12 second scene where Stark whips up a "repulser pistol" in the helicarrier lab and tosses it to her, and her combat effectiveness suddenly needs 100% less suspension of disbelief.

Her physically taking out the aliens and appropriating their staff-blasters I was fine with. That's your highly trained agent. But there's no difference between her 9mm and the one's the cops have. If her two pistols could do that much damage, then a squad of, say, Navy SEALS would have taken out the entire army of Chitauri foot soldiers in half an hour. It is the one thing that makes the Chitauri look completely defeatable.

Her pistols gives us a real life benchmark to measure the Chitauri against. That's where it goes wrong. Cap's athletics and Hawkeye's arrows are off the real-life scale and we can imagine them to be as powerful as the plot requires. A 9mm is always a 9mm.
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Old June 20 2012, 05:10 PM   #1417
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there were more scenes of the National Guard, but tehy got cut. you can see that in the trailers and also what some guys from the NYNG said regarding how Joss allowed them to act for the camera as though they were really fighting aliens (IE he told them what the aliens were doing, they used real life tactics to react and he filmed it instead of BS Hollywood tactics)
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Old June 20 2012, 10:01 PM   #1418
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there were more scenes of the National Guard, but tehy got cut. you can see that in the trailers and also what some guys from the NYNG said regarding how Joss allowed them to act for the camera as though they were really fighting aliens (IE he told them what the aliens were doing, they used real life tactics to react and he filmed it instead of BS Hollywood tactics)

People have been shitting on Bay's Transformers films, but one thing I loved was how he incorporated the military into the film. It made sense on a plot level, but he also knew that the military would know best how to fight alien robots than a scriptwriter would. The Skorponok scene is a perfect example of real military tactics.

I was excited during the last twenty minutes of Transformers, when the battle took to the streets, and came close to feeling that level of excitement in the last half hour of the Avengers. Avengers probably won't age well, but it did feel like a living comic book.
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Old June 21 2012, 01:10 AM   #1419
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Brilliance personified:

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Old June 21 2012, 01:18 AM   #1420
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^^^
That was awesome!!
I instantly opened another window and shared it with a friend who is diehard Firefly!!
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Old June 21 2012, 08:55 AM   #1421
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That is really well done! Now I want to watch Firefly again...
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Old June 21 2012, 10:44 PM   #1422
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^^^
That was awesome!!
I instantly opened another window and shared it with a friend who is diehard Firefly!!
I loved it, and so did my mom, another diehard Firefly fan.
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Old June 26 2012, 09:10 PM   #1423
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Avengers expected to break $600M today.
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Old June 26 2012, 10:33 PM   #1424
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Making it the first non-James Cameron film to do so, and third overall. Titanic is SOOO lucky that it converted to 3-D, grabbing an extra $50M, or else it would have also fallen either today or tomorrow.
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Old June 26 2012, 11:14 PM   #1425
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In domestic receipts, sure, but worldwide The Avengers doesn't have a chance at Titanic's numbers. Still doing mega-business, though.
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