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Old June 21 2012, 10:36 PM   #1
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What likely happened to the Cardassian Union after the war

What do you think likely happened to Cardassia Union after the Dominion War? Would all 3 of the victorious powers have occupied Cardassia Prime after the war? Would the Cardassians have their own sovereign state right after the war? I would assume the Federation would want Cardassia society to be more Democratic so that they would abandon the oppressive and militaristic policies the previous regime had in place.

However if all 3 powers are occupying the planet, what's to say the Klingons or the Romulans wouldn't want to set up puppet governments in their occupation zones? Look what happened with Germany after WWII, both the USSR and the Western Powers set up different governments in their occupation zones.
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Old June 21 2012, 11:27 PM   #2
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Re: What likely happened to the Cardassian Union after the war

The novels set after "What You Leave Behind" feature Starfleet, the Klingons and the Romulans designating certain areas of Cardassian space as "protectorates". Andrew Robinson's novel A Stitch in Time features Garak supporting a new democratic Cardassian government.
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Old June 21 2012, 11:54 PM   #3
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The Cardassians will never again be a "threat" species. They never really were threatening until the Dominion propped them up. The only other times that there was an "Oh noes the Cardies are here!" vibe was when they showed up at places that were undefended or had the Romulans backing them up. Their ships went down like punks.

Take away the Dominion, and about a billion lives, and you've got nothing. Can't imagine that the Klingons would have left much in the part of the Union that they received. Romulans probably wouldn't be kind, either.
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Old June 22 2012, 06:22 PM   #4
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Well as a military power they ae greatly diminshed, they have a massive amount of rebuilding to do on their homeworld. From a political point of view they won't have mich say and their best bet is keeping the Federation on side. And not antongising the Klingons or possible Romulans much.

It is entierly possible that they might edge towards a more itonalisitng philosphy.
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Old June 22 2012, 06:49 PM   #5
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Re: What likely happened to the Cardassian Union after the war

I think by now (2389), the Cardassion Union is in much better shape than it was after the war. Fourteen years have passed since the Battle of Cardassia, and while many key cities on the planet were devastated, a great deal of reconstruction has likely been in progress during that time. With possible humanitarian aid from the Federation and several other nations in the form of medicines, foodstuffs, industrial replicators, etc., the Cardassian Union's infrastructure may be well on the road to recovery by now, although there is probably still much work to be done before it can return to pre-war status.

Military-wise, though, I think the Cardassians probably had to enter into their own version of the Khitomer Accords (the Chin'toka Accords, perhaps?) during reconstruction.

IIRC, the Cardassian forces fared about as well as the forces of the Federation-Klingon-Romulan coalition as they switched sides against the Dominion during the final battle.
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Old June 23 2012, 06:13 AM   #6
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Re: What likely happened to the Cardassian Union after the war

In the novels Cardassia was reliant of Federation humanitarian aid for years, but eventually got their act back together again.

Garak was able to negotiate the Federation ceding several border planets to Cardassia in exchange for military aid against a Borg invasion.
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Old June 23 2012, 06:55 AM   #7
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Re: What likely happened to the Cardassian Union after the war

In my head the former Cardassian Union is divided up into four. These quarters are then put under the control of the: United Federation of Planets, Klingon Empire, Romulan Star Empire, and Cardassian Republic (with the latter being closely monitored by the others). In these areas, the species responsible has to oversee relief and rebuilding efforts, stabilising the regions economics, ensure health care provision and preventing the spread of disease, coordinating refugees, essential supplies, and providing security and protection.

As mentioned, the Cardassian Union has been dissolved and replaced with the Republic, which has completely overhauled the political system, in order to make it fair, open and equal, with the Military being removed from its high standing within the government.

The military is under strict regulation, with caps placed on the numbers of ships built, and weapons facilities being made open for inspection and monitoring. Whilst what ships they had left after the war are concentrated on protecting their own small holding for the former Union, under their new flagship (the last Keldon-Class to be built before the end of the war) the Cruiser Damar.

The regions economy is in shambles, millions are dead and billions more have been left homeless, without the necessary infrastructure needed to support them or handle even a fraction of reconstruction efforts.

All of this obviously leaves many despondent, depressed and wanting to give up, others want to rebuild a new society, and then there are those that want revenge and want to make it on their own without all the interferance.

Basically, the entire region has gone to hell and everyone in and around the former Union has a lot of work ahead of them.
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Old June 23 2012, 07:27 AM   #8
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I wonder if Cardassia would be plagued by terrorism after the war. The True Way terrorist group came about when Cardassia briefly had a civilian government from 2371 to 2373, Cardassia being occupied by the Federation and other powers may lead to a return of this group.

Also I wonder how the Cardassian people would view Dukat after the war. Would they see him the way Germany regards Hitler now, as a once popular leader leader who brought their civilization into a ultimately disastrous war and became a black mark in their history?
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Old June 23 2012, 07:55 PM   #9
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Re: What likely happened to the Cardassian Union after the war

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I wonder if Cardassia would be plagued by terrorism after the war. The True Way terrorist group came about when Cardassia briefly had a civilian government from 2371 to 2373, Cardassia being occupied by the Federation and other powers may lead to a return of this group.

Also I wonder how the Cardassian people would view Dukat after the war. Would they see him the way Germany regards Hitler now, as a once popular leader leader who brought their civilization into a ultimately disastrous war and became a black mark in their history?
Most definitely. Dukat would become possibly the most infamous figure in Cardassian history. Damar on the other hand would be regarded as a heroic rebel who fought oppression and used as an example of Cardassian pride.
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Old June 24 2012, 01:17 AM   #10
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Read the first Worlds of Deep Space 9 book, if you want a short story to provide the atmosphere for Cardassia after the war. It features terrorists, democratic Cardassians and Garak, oh my!
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Old June 24 2012, 03:35 AM   #11
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Re: What likely happened to the Cardassian Union after the war

Ever wonder if Bajor, untouched by the Dominion War and near Cardassian space, might've exacted some "off the radar payback" against the Cardies in the aftermath of the war?

Kind of plays to that alternate universe in "Paralles" where the Bajorans had overthrown Cardassian control and then become militant, attacking Federation targets.
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Old June 24 2012, 11:43 AM   #12
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Dividing the Cardassian holdings among the victors would probably depend on the geometry of the situation. If the worlds the Klingons had taken from Cardassia did not border on the actual Klingon Empire, but would be separated from it by a thick swath of UFP, would the Klingons still be interested? Or would they insist on swapping until they got the formerly contested Betreka region? If the Romulan Star Empire was completely isolated from any Cardassian holdings by UFP space (and by the Neutral Zone, the dispersal of which was never mentioned), would (and could) they lay any claims?

These evil empires of space might be too worried about the defensibility of far-flung assets to accept those, whereas the UFP would be happy to extend all sorts of indefensible tentacles towards worlds eager to ally with them. The end result here might be the UFP once again expanding while the other victors just take loot back home and stay within their former borders.

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Old June 24 2012, 12:39 PM   #13
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Ever wonder if Bajor, untouched by the Dominion War and near Cardassian space, might've exacted some "off the radar payback" against the Cardies in the aftermath of the war?

Kind of plays to that alternate universe in "Paralles" where the Bajorans had overthrown Cardassian control and then become militant, attacking Federation targets.
Groups like Kohn-Ma may very well do that, but Bajor was already starting to work with Cardassia before the war (Bareil's peace treaty, the GQ communications array, etc). Also Bajor would still be wanting to get into the UFP and picking on the Cardassians in their post-war state wouldn't look to good.

Though there is still a lot of bitterness, resentment and anger towards the Cardassians, the Bajorans can at least relate to what they've gone through, having just endure occupation themselves. I doubt they'll be BFFs but I'd think they'd be sympathetic towards them.
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Old June 24 2012, 10:55 PM   #14
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I can't imagine that the Cardassians could recover. They are presented as having inferior tech (although the Dominion likely gave them the information needed to put them at parity with the Feds), far fewer resources than other empires (thus why Ocett was interested in the possibility of a limitless source of energy, and why they needed slave labor and to mine foreign worlds). Their only strength was their tactical prowess. It seems unlikely that with their resources even further diminished, and the fact that at least a portion of the Union is now at the mercy of the Klingons and the Romulans paints a bleak picture. Just as well that they're done.
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Old June 25 2012, 08:37 AM   #15
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Then again, Romulans left Vulcan and then stayed "down" for two millennia, before emerging as a serious challenger to Klingons, Vulcans and the other usual suspects for initially local and eventually galactic domination. Klingons recovered from Praxis; Cardassians weren't exactly push-overs even after their defeat to the UFP in the old war, or their humiliation in "Chain of Command". Being "done" isn't a permanent state of affairs, and there doesn't appear to be any norm on how fast you catch up or fall behind.

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