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Old June 22 2012, 03:48 AM   #706
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FLOP!!!!
Hmmm...It's already the highest grossing Aliens movie ever. It made $100 million in 13 days, and $227 million worldwide..budget: $130 million.

If the plot really is as convoluted as I linked above, it's kind of amazing the movie did this well...

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I was kidding and parodying a former poster in the spirit of the posts above that one, in particular one pointing out how terrible the movie is and claiming he was the only one in his theater.
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Old June 22 2012, 03:51 AM   #707
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Hmmm...It's already the highest grossing Aliens movie ever. It made $100 million in 13 days, and $227 million worldwide..budget: $130 million.

If the plot really is as convoluted as I linked above, it's kind of amazing the movie did this well...

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I was kidding and parodying a former poster in the spirit of the posts above that one, in particular one pointing out how terrible the movie is and claiming he was the only one in his theater.
Ah, I just read of that poster after posting...why do people get such pleasure out of saying they paid money then left the theater? I'll never figure that one out.
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Old June 22 2012, 03:55 AM   #708
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I think I've only really walked out of a couple of movies ever the last one being when I was in high school.
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Old June 22 2012, 04:00 AM   #709
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The fact of the matter is that Ridley Scott and the writers were afraid of offending Christians with the whole "Space Jesus" thing. When the time came to do what needed to be done to make this movie profound, they pussied out. And now what we have is a bland, lackluster film, instead of the speculative masterpiece it should have been.
Space Jesus is neither profound nor original. It's just stupid. The movie wouldn't have suddenly become a masterpiece had they dared to tread where a thousand hacks have tread before.


It struck me that this alien culture(s) was highly ritualistic and obsessed with icons and symbology. While some of the speculation might be unfounded as it's not directly stated in the movie, I wouldn't be surprised if they take a bolder step in making it more directly tied into mythology in the next movie.
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Old June 22 2012, 07:34 AM   #710
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It struck me that this alien culture(s) was highly ritualistic and obsessed with icons and symbology. While some of the speculation might be unfounded as it's not directly stated in the movie, I wouldn't be surprised if they take a bolder step in making it more directly tied into mythology in the next movie.
You misunderstand. I'm not questioning that Ridley Scott considered the Space Jesus story angle. He said himself that that was the original idea for why the Engineers turned on humanity 2,000 years ago (and I posted his quote on the matter earlier). I'm simply saying that the Space Jesus idea itself is neither profound, original, or particularly interesting.
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Old June 22 2012, 03:02 PM   #711
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I think I've only really walked out of a couple of movies ever the last one being when I was in high school.
I was forced to walk out of a film that had brief nudity when I was a child by a friend's parent, but have never voluntarily walked out of a movie I paid to see. But then, I usually go with friends I can make fun of the movie with if need be.
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Old June 22 2012, 03:14 PM   #712
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Never ever walked out of a film.

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Regarding Weyland. One thing I realized was Miss Vickers' line to David asking "Did anyone die?" She really was asking, "Did Peter Weyland die?"
Which really begs the question.... why was she THERE? If she wanted to control the company, you know, assume the throne, wouldn't him LEAVING be the perfect time to do that?

Instead she left on a 5 year (?) voyage to some remote planet, while OTHERS were running her Daddy's company... a perfect time for THEM to stage a coup.

Vickers.... as dumb as the rest of the characters.
One of many things in the film that makes no sense. Of course perhaps she genuinely worried for her father, perhaps she wanted him to be proud of her so she tagged along to get the validation she craved, maybe Weyland made her go (hard to see how, or in fact why he'd do this). We aren't given even a smidgen of evidence for any of these things in the film however. Vikers is there...well for some reason?
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Old June 22 2012, 04:00 PM   #713
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She wasn't made to go, didn't she say she didn't want to hang around and squabble over who had control of the company? I assume Vickers is there for more allegory. Weyland's rejection of his flesh and blood for his synethic "son" David. His refusal to die and let his offspring flourish (which is crap, IMHO, because if you can't be your own person without your parent dying, then that's on you, not them.)

I was wondering about the big the red space suits that were in the background of at least one scene.
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It struck me that this alien culture(s) was highly ritualistic and obsessed with icons and symbology. While some of the speculation might be unfounded as it's not directly stated in the movie, I wouldn't be surprised if they take a bolder step in making it more directly tied into mythology in the next movie.
You misunderstand. I'm not questioning that Ridley Scott considered the Space Jesus story angle. He said himself that that was the original idea for why the Engineers turned on humanity 2,000 years ago (and I posted his quote on the matter earlier). I'm simply saying that the Space Jesus idea itself is neither profound, original, or particularly interesting.
No, I don't think it's profound, and I've seen it used in SF before, however, I do find the way they melded it into the story interesting...its a case of damned if they do (from the theists) damned if they don't (Well they didn't SAY that in the movie--that's you Rojo)...so they took the middle road...I'm just hoping if they posit this, then they follow through, at least that would be bolder. Personally, the Persian myths link sounds more interesting to me as a story.


Edit: Its alo possible RIdley wanted to leave his options open, so he could go in any mythological direction he chose in the sequel..we'll see. Quite frankly, I'll take Prometheus over any Michael Bay movie...

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I think I've only really walked out of a couple of movies ever the last one being when I was in high school.
I was forced to walk out of a film that had brief nudity when I was a child by a friend's parent, but have never voluntarily walked out of a movie I paid to see. But then, I usually go with friends I can make fun of the movie with if need be.

that's the hilariously WRONG reaction from her. You'd think dragging a kid out because he saw some boobs or butt would only make it a bigger deal in his mind. Had she just ignored it, you as a kid would probably not have made a big deal about it.
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Old June 22 2012, 05:05 PM   #716
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Quite frankly, I'll take Prometheus over any Michael Bay movie...
We'll need a limbo champion to squeeze under a bar set that low. Maybe Fifield can spider-walk beneath it if he doesn't get lost on the way there.
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Old June 22 2012, 05:09 PM   #717
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If I recall correctly, the film was Ice Pirates. I haven't seen the movie since then, but I remember it being quite adult, and now wonder what possessed her to take children to see it.

Brad Jones, an Internet critic who gave Prometheus a glowing review recently re-reviewed the movie after reading all of the negative reactions online.



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Old June 22 2012, 05:47 PM   #718
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Well the current total of US$227m is not exactly high, but about enough to turn a profit.

Though it's done fairly well in the UK alone which accounts for about 20% of the International Box office at ~US$31m. (which allowing for population differenaces would be equate to ~US$135m)
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@TremblingBluStar: ^Fucking brilliant!
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Quite frankly, I'll take Prometheus over any Michael Bay movie...

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