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Old June 21 2012, 02:56 AM   #811
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In that instance the person doing the legitimizing would presumably be the one who already holds (or claims) the throne, so it's not really clear why they'd want to legitimize a rival claimant.
In the case of Stannis for example it might simply be the need for a designated heir (given Shireen's condition).
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Old June 21 2012, 02:59 AM   #812
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Tower of the Hand linked to this blog post about trying to figure out the most ideal way to reorder the chapters of Feast and Dance and essentially turn them both into one mega-book. What do you guys think? I like the idea, though I don't agree with the author's stance on not preserving the Quentyn Martell reveal (much as I loathe Quentyn's storyline in ADWD). He links to another take (Google Docs link) on reordering the books which does try to preserve that reveal.
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Old June 21 2012, 04:22 PM   #813
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Well so long as they cut most (if not all) of the Tyrion chapters, if they're planning on cutting material for this hypothetical merger. I think at most you'd need about two or three of those - him with Ilyrio, the one where he talks to Aegon, and then maybe one with him and Jorah.
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Old June 21 2012, 10:52 PM   #814
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I don't see anything about cutting material at all, it's just a reordering of all the chapters from both books into a vaguely chronological order (for the most part).
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Old June 22 2012, 02:40 AM   #815
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Ironically enough, I just tried doing that very thing (not actually merging the two books, but flipping back and forth -- Thank you, Kindle!). I found that if you went about 10% on ADWD, then 20%, sometimes 30% or so on AFFC, it works pretty well.

The only real wonky part chronologically were the Arianne chapters, believe it or not -- right when the 'Mountain's' skull shows up in Dorne, as all of the Sand Snakes and Arianne are free of their prison cells (thus after AFFC, basically)... yet it's only about 1/2 through ADWD.

It was a good challenge, to say the least.

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Old June 22 2012, 03:28 AM   #816
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The first person responding in the comments section on that blog is Bryan Cogman.
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Old June 22 2012, 05:19 PM   #817
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Ironically enough, I just tried doing that very thing (not actually merging the two books, but flipping back and forth -- Thank you, Kindle!). I found that if you went about 10% on ADWD, then 20%, sometimes 30% or so on AFFC, it works pretty well.

The only real wonky part chronologically were the Arianne chapters, believe it or not -- right when the 'Mountain's' skull shows up in Dorne, as all of the Sand Snakes and Arianne are free of their prison cells (thus after AFFC, basically)... yet it's only about 1/2 through ADWD.

It was a good challenge, to say the least.

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The problem with reordering is that not even the individual books themselves are necessarily chronological. The characters' stories are basically just spread through the book for optimal pacing/impact as a whole, unless they're interacting with other character threads.
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Old June 22 2012, 10:01 PM   #818
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It's not really a problem. The two different reorderings I linked to do try to follow a generally chronological order, but for the most part they place pacing and narrative over chronology. The only chapters that seem to be an issue are the Arianne/Quentyn ones. Quentyn's storyline starts in ADWD before Arianne's does in AFFC, but the end of Arianne's storyline sets up a cliffhanger leading into the beginning of Quentyn's because AFFC was published first.
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Old June 23 2012, 03:32 AM   #819
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Here's another question from rewatching... Jamie said there were "maybe three men" in the kingdoms who could beat him in a fight. It's likely the brothers Clegane and Loras, but what do you think? Is Selmy too old, or does he swap out for Loras on experience?
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Old June 23 2012, 03:51 AM   #820
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I would say it's intended to be Selmy (they've had Jaime fanboying him for pretty much the whole show), one of the Clegane brothers, and either the other Clegane or Loras Tyrell.
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Old June 23 2012, 04:40 AM   #821
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Just as likely to be any of them really. Loras is probably the easiest to discount of the four in the show.
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Old June 23 2012, 04:09 PM   #822
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Well, we never get any reruns so who cares.
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Old June 25 2012, 02:29 PM   #823
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http://winteriscoming.net/2012/06/se...ming-july-9th/


According to wic. Filming starts on July 9th, which means casting news will be fast and furious
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Old June 25 2012, 05:59 PM   #824
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Cast members from Game of Thrones will be reading audiobook versions of three of George R.R. Martin's early novels. Iain Glen will read Dying of the Light, Michelle Fairley wil read Windhaven, and Ron Donachie will read Fevre Dream.
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