AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS** - Page 94

Kelthaz · June 17 2012, 11:37 PM

Dream wrote:

No, I never want Spider-Man or Wolverine to EVER be in an Avengers movie. Those two are just too big and would just take attention away from the rest of the characters.

If Spider-Man is so big, then why doesn't anyone care about his upcoming film? I'd say Iron Man is far bigger than Spider-Man among the movie going public. Same with Wolverine.

OdoWanKenobi · June 17 2012, 11:49 PM

It didn't use to be that way. It's mostly Spider-Man fatigue setting in. This will be the fourth Spider-Man film. Very few franchises are able to sustain interest for that long, especially when the previous entry was lackluster. Plus people are realizing that, hey this Iron Man character is actually pretty awesome. Robert Downey Jr's incredible charisma is also really helping things in that respect.

M'rk, son of Mogh · June 18 2012, 01:16 AM

OdoWanKenobi wrote:

Plus people are realizing that, hey this Iron Man character is actually pretty awesome. Robert Downey Jr's incredible charisma is also really helping things in that respect.

I'd bet that it's the opposite of what you're saying. Robert Downey first, THEN the "Iron Man character is pretty awesome."

Because Tony sure has changed from the comics and previous cartoons. It's all Robert Downey Jr and they're screwed when he wants to leave.

Luckily, he seems to still be having fun.

Gaith · June 18 2012, 02:20 AM

Kelthaz wrote:

Dream wrote:

No, I never want Spider-Man or Wolverine to EVER be in an Avengers movie. Those two are just too big and would just take attention away from the rest of the characters.

If Spider-Man is so big, then why doesn't anyone care about his upcoming film?

Methinks that, before the box office results roll in, this declaration is a wee bit premature.

Besides, I care. I'm looking forward to it more than dull ol' Bats, frankly.

captcalhoun · June 18 2012, 07:09 AM

i agree i'm more looking forward to ASM than DKR, but i don't know that i'd call Batman 'dull'.

Aldo · June 18 2012, 05:34 PM

I'm also looking forward to it. Spidey has always been one of my favorite comic book characters.

That said though, I think Dark Knight Rises is going to be something special, and I cant' wait to see it either.

JD · June 18 2012, 09:30 PM

I'm another Spidey fan who's more interested in ASM than TDKR.

Crusher Disciple · June 19 2012, 01:10 AM

captcalhoun wrote:

i take it nobody clicked the link and read the accompanying article?

it explains the dead husband joke...

No, I was afraid all that physical labor would sprain my thumb.

Admiral James Kirk · June 19 2012, 01:31 AM

captcalhoun wrote:

i agree i'm more looking forward to ASM than DKR, but i don't know that i'd call Batman 'dull'.

I'm also more excited about ASM than I am DKR. To be honest I think Christopher Nolan's take on Batman is all played out and DKR just gives me this Godfather Part III vibe.

However with ASM we have a fresh new cast, director and vision for the character. I was never pleased with the Raimi trilogy so I'm hoping this new take will be the best version of Spider-Man ever.

Set Harth · June 19 2012, 05:07 AM

Admiral James Kirk wrote:

DKR just gives me this Godfather Part III vibe.

You mean you're trying to get out, but it just keeps pulling you back in?

Trekker4747 · June 19 2012, 05:28 AM

Crusher Disciple wrote:

captcalhoun wrote:

i take it nobody clicked the link and read the accompanying article?

it explains the dead husband joke...

No, I was afraid all that physical labor would sprain my thumb.

I know you're hot for Loki but...

You know what, I won't go that low brow.

Admiral James Kirk · June 19 2012, 05:41 AM

Set Harth wrote:

Admiral James Kirk wrote:

DKR just gives me this Godfather Part III vibe.

You mean you're trying to get out, but it just keeps pulling you back in?

CosmicQuestion · June 20 2012, 03:27 AM

Howdy peoples! Seen the movie yesterday and thought it was about average. Couldn't understand why the Avengers were the only ones fighting the invaders, especially since the aliens were so weak. If Black Widow's hand guns had no problem bringing them down I would imagine our troops would've laid them waste.

I admit it was nice to see weak aliens instead of the telepathic powerhouses we're used to in other sci-fi, but they were TOO weak.

Cap could've been tougher and seemed to be barely hanging on at times (in one scene he was literally barely hanging on), granted he wasn't trained in all the martial arts yet.

Cap, Hawkeye, and Widow were stuck on one street picking off whatever alien happened to pass by. I was hoping they would do something cool like sneak into the enemy base or something... oh well. Fury didn't even launch planes from the helicarrier to help! Maybe too busy playing Gallaga, aw man.

I rate the movie a C only because I was a fan of the comic back in the day.

Still, Thanos' winning smile displayed the benefits of proper dental hygiene. A good message for youngsters, or anyone for that matter.

Trekker4747 · June 20 2012, 03:34 AM

BW and Hawkeye were good at fighting the aliens because they were both elite assassins, they were top-tier military personnel trained and honed to do these very things. Watch how BW handles the aliens in taking them down, disarming them, and using their own weapons on them. All the city officials had going for them were the local beat cops (who say in a talk that the military wouldn't arrive for quite some time.) Quite a big difference there in skill sets.

At the same time the alien "soldiers" were pure cannon fodder, only there for the express purpose of occupying the forces of those they were fighting while the heavier machinery did the bulk of the work for their ultimate goal. So police/military could have aided but it ultimately wouldn't help and would just be doing exactly what the Chitauri were there for, to die for the progression of their goals.

Crusher Disciple · June 20 2012, 03:38 AM

Trekker4747 wrote:

Crusher Disciple wrote:

captcalhoun wrote:

i take it nobody clicked the link and read the accompanying article?

it explains the dead husband joke...

No, I was afraid all that physical labor would sprain my thumb.

I know you're hot for Loki but...

You know what, I won't go that low brow.

I'm not so busy with work this week that I can't find time to stuff you into the recycle bin.

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June 17 2012, 11:49 PM	#1397
OdoWanKenobi Shapeshifting Jedi Location: Gotham City	Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel SPOILERS It didn't use to be that way. It's mostly Spider-Man fatigue setting in. This will be the fourth Spider-Man film. Very few franchises are able to sustain interest for that long, especially when the previous entry was lackluster. Plus people are realizing that, hey this Iron Man character is actually pretty awesome. Robert Downey Jr's incredible charisma is also really helping things in that respect. __________________ I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite thread on the TrekBBS.

June 18 2012, 07:09 AM	#1400
captcalhoun Admiral Location: gone	Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel SPOILERS i agree i'm more looking forward to ASM than DKR, but i don't know that i'd call Batman 'dull'.

June 18 2012, 05:34 PM	#1401
Aldo Admiral Location: Washington	Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel SPOILERS I'm also looking forward to it. Spidey has always been one of my favorite comic book characters. That said though, I think Dark Knight Rises is going to be something special, and I cant' wait to see it either. __________________ I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you understand.

June 18 2012, 09:30 PM	#1402
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel SPOILERS I'm another Spidey fan who's more interested in ASM than TDKR. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

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June 20 2012, 03:27 AM	#1408
CosmicQuestion Lieutenant Junior Grade	Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel SPOILERS Howdy peoples! Seen the movie yesterday and thought it was about average. Couldn't understand why the Avengers were the only ones fighting the invaders, especially since the aliens were so weak. If Black Widow's hand guns had no problem bringing them down I would imagine our troops would've laid them waste. I admit it was nice to see weak aliens instead of the telepathic powerhouses we're used to in other sci-fi, but they were TOO weak. Cap could've been tougher and seemed to be barely hanging on at times (in one scene he was literally barely hanging on), granted he wasn't trained in all the martial arts yet. Cap, Hawkeye, and Widow were stuck on one street picking off whatever alien happened to pass by. I was hoping they would do something cool like sneak into the enemy base or something... oh well. Fury didn't even launch planes from the helicarrier to help! Maybe too busy playing Gallaga, aw man. I rate the movie a C only because I was a fan of the comic back in the day. Still, Thanos' winning smile displayed the benefits of proper dental hygiene. A good message for youngsters, or anyone for that matter.

June 20 2012, 03:34 AM	#1409
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel SPOILERS BW and Hawkeye were good at fighting the aliens because they were both elite assassins, they were top-tier military personnel trained and honed to do these very things. Watch how BW handles the aliens in taking them down, disarming them, and using their own weapons on them. All the city officials had going for them were the local beat cops (who say in a talk that the military wouldn't arrive for quite some time.) Quite a big difference there in skill sets. At the same time the alien "soldiers" were pure cannon fodder, only there for the express purpose of occupying the forces of those they were fighting while the heavier machinery did the bulk of the work for their ultimate goal. So police/military could have aided but it ultimately wouldn't help and would just be doing exactly what the Chitauri were there for, to die for the progression of their goals. __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical.