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Old June 14 2012, 07:14 PM   #46
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'Dallas' premiere strikes it rich for TNT

The premiere of Dallas — TNT’s reboot of the classic series — averaged 6.8 million viewers on Wednesday, making it the No. 1 scripted series premiere on all of cable so far this year.

TNT, as a result, was the No. 1 network among basic cable Wednesday. The show that stars Larry Hagman, Linda Gray, Jesse Metcalfe and Jordana Brewster lured 1.9 milion adults 18-49 and 2.4 million adults 25-54.
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Old June 14 2012, 07:28 PM   #47
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As a newbie to the Dallas franchise I enjoyed it. I found the stuff with the new cast just as interesting as the stuff with the original characters. I was kinda surprised by just how much the original actors were in this. I figured they'd have a couple of token scenes here and there, but they actually seem to be just as much of a focus as the kids. I'll admit other than Revenge I'd never really been into this kind of soapy stuff, but I really enjoyed these two, and might check out more of these kinds of shows.
As for the email, I didn't think of the theory that seems to be the dominant one here, but it seems pretty likely to me.
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Old June 14 2012, 07:52 PM   #48
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I guess I think a little "old school" here. The original Dallas writers didn't always go for the obvious. Yeah, the email could be from Chris' wife - but, knowing they want to bring back Pam, my bet is still on it being Pam. If it was up to me, that would be the old school type of twist at the end of the first ten episodes to lead to the next season - but I'm flexible.

I am definitely sticking to Cliff Barnes hiding in the background,probably playing JR, John Ross, and maybe even Bobby to get a piece of Southfork. Jock's well was where it all started between Digger and Jock and led to the feud being the Ewing and Ross families. He's running Ewing Oil now, so it's only natural he'd be scheming to get a piece of Southfork. To him, that would be like winning all the marbles.
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Old June 14 2012, 08:15 PM   #49
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I haven't seen all of the second episode yet, but eh, not sure I'll make it all the way through the ten episodes. I distinctly remember the original Dallas being both soapy, yet also non-sucky. I expected the remake to be more on par with that.

This version is so damn obvious about everything. There's no subtlety to the writing or for the most part, the acting. Even the old timers are off their game. What happened to Patrick Duffy? He's almost as wooden as the younguns. Maybe he hasn't been getting acting gigs and is badly out of practice. Larry Hagman is the only one who's solid. The rest are variations on painful to watch.

What I really can't stand is writing where a character is made to look bad simply for the sake of a plot twist. That's what they did to Elena by having her be so stupid that she doesn't realize an e-mail can easily be faked, and so weak-willed that she can't pick up a damn phone to find out what the fuck Christopher is thinking.

Even if the e-mail were legit, she should have screamed her head off at him. I can't respect any woman who is such a doormat, she won't even do that much. But they couldn't have her do that, because then they wouldn't have their soapy bullshit love triangle. Yet she seems strong-willed about her career, so this doesn't even make coherent sense for the character. Bleh.
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Old June 14 2012, 11:48 PM   #50
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^ Nothing wrong with revisiting old properties. Sometimes it's more fun and creative to redo or continue old stuff. And some things should be revisited or explored more than once.
the only one coming to mind that worked--and even then to mixed results--was BSG--every other remake of a show I loved I checked out sucked and was nowhere as good as the original--Melrose Place, Knight Rider, Bionic Woman, 90210, V, Charlies Angels etc. Even films--Karate Kid, Footloose, Nightmare on Elm Street etc. I have not seen one successfully pulled off--they are so horribly written and given such horrible modern sensibilities that it sucks. I understand why Hollywood does it--the 80s/90s were fun and entertaining and nothing in the last decade can muster that enthusiasm and Hollywood would love nothing but to recapture that kind of loyalty and fandom but you can't go back.

The original DALLAS was thoroughly entertaining with a cast of great characters--Pam, Sue Ellen, Clayton, Jock, Miss Ellie, Donna, Ray, Cliff, Bobby, JR--who was a character you loved to hate unlike John Ross who I just hate like most young actors these days.
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Old June 14 2012, 11:57 PM   #51
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The BSG approach may be the only way to do "remakes" - basically, use the brand name to get the project greenlit - by giving the suits an ass-saving out in case of failure - then ignore it. That way you aren't caught in the trap of trying to live up to a beloved original. Just do your own thing (bonus points if the original sucked to begin with.)

In that light, Mockingbird Lane (The Munsters "remake") could be a success, because the casting suggests they don't give a flying frak about the original.
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Old June 15 2012, 12:24 AM   #52
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I thought that the stuff going on with the new generation was compelling enough, and I'm pleased with the balance between them and the older generation. Bobby, J.R. and the rest could have been relegated to background cameos, but they haven't been. They're still a big part of the show. It's also nice that they kept the old theme. I knew they would, but I wasn't expecting it to be as untouched as it was. I thought they'd try to tweak it or modernize it more.
I liked all that too. And I loved Linda Grey. I hope they make her as evil as ever. Maybe even her and JR could get back together

I enjoyed seeing Jon Ross as kinda down on his luck as well.
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Old June 15 2012, 03:19 AM   #53
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When Brenda strong was chasing away the burglar and said 'I never miss at any distance" who was thinking of the desperate House wives pilot where "her character" put a pistol to her temple and blew her pretty little brains out?

"chuckle."
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Old June 15 2012, 03:26 AM   #54
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I bet her character from Starship Troopers didn't miss at any distance...
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Old June 15 2012, 03:40 AM   #55
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I've watched the first episode, will catch the repeat of the second one this weekend. I've never seen the original series as it was before my time but I remember my mom watching it. Got to say, I quite enjoyed it and J.R. is just a Magnificent Bastard, isn't he?

Also loved the use of the opening credits sequence/theme as it's very much like I remember the original one being.

I did love how J.R. was "playing possum" so-to-speak in the hospital and clapped when it turned out he was behind the purchase of his family's estate. I may have never really seen the series but have been exposed to the popular culture of it enough to know J.R. is a perfect bastard.
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Old June 15 2012, 04:28 AM   #56
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Well, I'm gonna give it a try. I'm delighted to see that they didn't make Texas out to be great big old caricature like GCB did.

My biggest beef is the same with the original. Didn't feel too much like it was set in Texas. Could've been anywhere. Course, if you spend most of the time filming in sound stages in LA, it really won't.

But God, it's good to see JR and his eyebrows again.
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Old June 15 2012, 04:37 AM   #57
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There's a touch of stuff in it that made me laugh a go, "Ohhh, Texas!" Like in a scene where someone is told by the police to next time just shoot her home invaders.
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Old June 15 2012, 04:43 AM   #58
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There's a touch of stuff in it that made me laugh a go, "Ohhh, Texas!" Like in a scene where someone is told by the police to next time just shoot her home invaders.
Okay, I'll give you that one. I think those guys were ranch security.

When the cops came by to kick John Ross off of South Fork, I was racking my brains to remember what county they were in and what their uniforms were supposed to look like.

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ETA: And when I watched that scene, I was yelling "I could take THAT shot!" at the screen.
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Old June 15 2012, 01:22 PM   #59
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Well, I'm gonna give it a try. I'm delighted to see that they didn't make Texas out to be great big old caricature like GCB did.

My biggest beef is the same with the original. Didn't feel too much like it was set in Texas. Could've been anywhere. Course, if you spend most of the time filming in sound stages in LA, it really won't.

But God, it's good to see JR and his eyebrows again.
I think his eyebrows have grown their own eyebrows
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Old June 15 2012, 07:08 PM   #60
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Watched the rest of the 2nd ep, hey it got better. But add Linda Grey to the "can't act any more" column with Patrick Duffy. Both of them seem very out of practice.

The way she's playing Sue Ellen is way too spacey, bug-eyed and drugged out for her to be a convincing gubernatorial candidate, even in Texas. I dimly recall Sue Ellen always being like that, but if she's become a force in politics, she had to have modified her behavior to fit her new career just to avoid scaring potential backers, nevermind voters. Yet another element that doesn't add up.

My biggest beef is the same with the original. Didn't feel too much like it was set in Texas.
From what I can tell, it looks like they're shooting in Texas this time. The flat plains/green grass/oak trees combo doesn't look very Californian to me.

As for the scene with Ann, I wondered if she'd shot the guy in the back while fleeing, would that be okay by Texas law? Sure looked like she was thinking about it.
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