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Old June 6 2012, 09:53 PM   #241
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Re: Avengers Vs. X-Men -- Speculation, Spoilers, and Discussion

heh, yeah i didn't expect that kind of end to this issue of AvX. and i'm just gonna go ahead and say it...Cyclops looks like Nightwing.
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Old June 7 2012, 01:30 AM   #242
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The characters motivations don't make sense because in a way they've been forced into various storylines thanks to Schism. While I enjoyed Schism very much, and have been loving ReGenesis equally, I was of the opinion and still am, that Marvel editorial forced these story lines upon Cyclops and Logan. They took little strands of threads and then extrapolated them into full blown story lines...after spending a good two or three years beforehand uniting the mutant species and building Utopia. I didn't think it made sense then and I still don't despite liking the results.

I have to admit that this whole event has felt incredibly disjointed and just an incredible mess. I believe the plan to have multiple writers and artists work on it (while good on paper) in execution just plain hasn't worked at all. The tie-ins have been better than the actual series for the most part. Act I was a bad start...as excited as I was at the start...my interest has been slowly waning. I might drop this frankly and read it when it's collected in trade in a few months.
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Old June 7 2012, 03:03 AM   #243
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OK, I was surprised by the ending of the issue, but I didn't like it. It was just... silly... goofy... also feels like a really over-used concept at the moment.
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Old June 7 2012, 10:14 AM   #244
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I have to agree...Scott looks like New 52 Nightwing though, and that is a ridiculous redesign of his visor. Emma looks good I knew something bad was going to happen to the Extinction team lol but that was stupid. I guess we can now expect a Phoenix Avengers Vs X-Men toy line next year.

Also another thought...is the Extinction team considered the true Five Lights now? Or does Hope's team have some kind of destiny to save her?
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Old June 13 2012, 03:01 AM   #245
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This is interesting...I think I've made my views about Scott clear in the thread and in the Marvel thread. The reality though is that the event has been written so erratically that it's been tough to guess.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/10-p...ualties-1.html
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Old June 13 2012, 05:20 AM   #246
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wouldn't be surprised if Red Hulk died. they've been kinda teasing that idea in the last few issues of his series. plus in X-Sanction Cable said Red Hulk is eventually Talbot.

don't care if Luke Cage or Protector die. the rest, i'm pretty invested in.
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Old June 13 2012, 05:36 AM   #247
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I think Marvel wouldn't have the balls to kill off Scott, despite The Last Stand taking that route. I too wouldn't care about The Protector, Luke dying I would care about since I'm a fan of Jess Jones. Bendis cares about Cage too much to suggest they kill him off though. It could be none of these who die though. I'm surprised we haven't had a casualty thus far. Maybe next act though.
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Old June 13 2012, 11:46 AM   #248
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I never read "Marvel Boy" but "Protector" has basically been a non-character throughout the Bendis run. I could care less if he died. They'll never kill Luke Cage; they have too few minority superheroes as it is, and he's definitely the most prominent one.
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IMO Marvel Boy was a good character...then Bendis started messing with him.
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Marvel's September solicits reveal that issues 11 and 12 will both be extra-sized (with the 48-page issue 12 being $4.99) and the identities of the combatants of "vs." #6...

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Old June 14 2012, 01:21 AM   #251
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Wasn't Scott killed off a while ago? I seem to recall when I was reading X-Men (this was back around 2000) that Scott was gone, dead perhaps, but I can't really remember.
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Old June 14 2012, 02:39 AM   #252
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Yeah he sacrificed himself to kill Apocalypse... but then he came back... and he was infected with Apocalypse's spirit... and they got rid of it... then he was messed up in the head... then he had an affair with Emma Frost... then Jean died... again... and he's been knocking boots with Emma and getting progressively more darker and totalitarian ever since.
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I remember him coming back, now. Though that was right around the time I stopped collecting the two main series (X-Men and Uncanny X-Men).
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Old June 14 2012, 09:11 AM   #254
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He was possessed by Apocalypse. The death part seems to have been retconned since though. Only being possessed by En Saba Nur seems to still exist, and I haven't seen a reference to his actual death ever in current continuity.
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and the identities of the combatants of "vs." #6...

That's not accurate. I mean, it's partly accurate, but you missed this part:



Based on that, I expect ten pages of the "title bout," with the other fights relegated to single pages.
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