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A + 16 6.90%
A 27 11.64%
A - 32 13.79%
B + 43 18.53%
B 33 14.22%
B - 21 9.05%
C + 19 8.19%
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Old June 11 2012, 02:44 PM   #301
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One nitpick. Why does science fiction always get the science of evolution and natural selection so terribly wrong? Depositing DNA into the sea codes would not lead to the creation of the human species - it's extremely unlikely. This film gets evolution and natural selection wrong and so did Trek in the episode The Chase.
The black nanomachines appeared to take apart and reassemble the Engineer's DNA to form the code for primitive life forms. One problem was that these machines appeared to be quite a bit smaller than the phosphate groups. Non-Darwinian as you say and also probably not realistic Physics.
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Old June 11 2012, 02:45 PM   #302
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Same here. Far from perfect, many flaws, I get it - but nonetheless I still enjoyed myself immensely.
I saw it at an IMAX theater which greatly enhanced the visual experience.
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Old June 11 2012, 03:17 PM   #303
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Old June 11 2012, 04:23 PM   #304
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One thing that is interesting throughout all of the Alien series is the androids are morally dubious characters at best. It was interesting that Scott portrayed David as he was which if I understood correctly only loyal to Weyland?
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Old June 11 2012, 04:31 PM   #305
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One question though that really isn't explained in the film. The opening sequence leads us to believe that the engineers came here and left permanently. However, the cave drawings and the similar ancient architecture leads us to believe they continued to visit for sometime as humanity 'grows up.'

So, why would they want to destroy their own creation as they watched over us presumably over thousands of years?
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Old June 11 2012, 04:33 PM   #306
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^^^ Perhaps they felt we were getting too dangerous. They saw us developing and evolving beyond our original intent. They likely feared that we would become a star-faring race, encounter them and destroy them. Not entirely a concern without merit. Haven't seen the movie yet, myself, but that would be my guess
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^^^ Perhaps they felt we were getting too dangerous. They saw us developing and evolving beyond our original intent. They likely feared that we would become a star-faring race, encounter them and destroy them. Not entirely a concern without merit. Haven't seen the movie yet, myself, but that would be my guess
But they only seen a couple of humans in the movie. Not much to base a judgement on...
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Old June 11 2012, 04:50 PM   #308
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Unless they 'saw' enough 2,000 years ago...
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Old June 11 2012, 04:55 PM   #309
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Unless they 'saw' enough 2,000 years ago...
As an aside:

Eric von Däniken who wrote Chariots of the Gods and the rest of people involved with the History channel TV show Ancient Aliens must be simply thrilled with this movie.
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Old June 11 2012, 05:08 PM   #310
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It's just "a" movie.

Here's an interview Ridley Scott gave a few days ago

and here are some musings concerning the movie.

Whether you (collective you) like that or not to me is irrelevant, but the simple fact that a movie divides so many people and makes way for that kind of talk is simply amazing.
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Old June 11 2012, 05:18 PM   #311
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One question though that really isn't explained in the film. The opening sequence leads us to believe that the engineers came here and left permanently. However, the cave drawings and the similar ancient architecture leads us to believe they continued to visit for sometime as humanity 'grows up.'

So, why would they want to destroy their own creation as they watched over us presumably over thousands of years?
In myth, Prometheus makes man from clay, sides with the gods against the titans, and steals fire from the gods and gives it to man, only to be condemned for it. So, I suppose the "Prometheus" we see at the beginning of the film is part of one faction of engineers that creates and guides human life, against the will or law of their race, while the ones we see at the end of the film are part of another faction seeking to destroy their works. Their enemies. If the "good engineers" gave us fire, that is technology 2000 years ago, perhaps the "evil engineers" are out to destroy the perceived threat of us. Or maybe to them, all or them, Earth was just a petri dish that served its purpose, and now goes to decon.

Just a guess.

Oh, and A-. It was great.
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Old June 11 2012, 05:35 PM   #312
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I gave it an A. I enjoyed it immensely. I'm just hoping that it makes enough to warrant a sequel. I don't feel real good about that happening though...I just don't know if the money will be there in the studios eyes.
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Old June 11 2012, 05:42 PM   #313
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They likely feared that we would become a star-faring race, encounter them and destroy them.
I don't know about you, but when I'm afraid of something I don't normally leave a map behind pointing out where I am.
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Old June 11 2012, 05:42 PM   #314
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I gave it an A. I enjoyed it immensely. I'm just hoping that it makes enough to warrant a sequel. I don't feel real good about that happening though...I just don't know if the money will be there in the studios eyes.
I would think so, It's made 50 million in the U.S. this weekend, which is very good for an R-rated film.

I just hope some sort of plan for filming the sequel for this was thought out ahead of time, and that Scott doesn't become distracted by his other film projects.
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Old June 11 2012, 05:49 PM   #315
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In myth, Prometheus makes man from clay, sides with the gods against the titans, and steals fire from the gods and gives it to man, only to be condemned for it. So, I suppose the "Prometheus" we see at the beginning of the film is part of one faction of engineers that creates and guides human life, against the will or law of their race, while the ones we see at the end of the film are part of another faction seeking to destroy their works. Their enemies. If the "good engineers" gave us fire, that is technology 2000 years ago, perhaps the "evil engineers" are out to destroy the perceived threat of us. Or maybe to them, all or them, Earth was just a petri dish that served its purpose, and now goes to decon.

Just a guess.

Oh, and A-. It was great.
That is a reasonable explanation. And I agree this is the best sci-fi flick IMO since Trek XI.

Regarding box office totals the film brought in $50 million in the US.

And, worldwide its brought in $141 million

It cost Fox and estimated $130 million to make the film and as pointed out 1/2 the cost The Avengers did.

However, Avengers is up to over $1 billion in box office receipts worldwide so at this point Prometheus has just barely paid for itself.
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