PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss - Page 17

Warped9 · June 10 2012, 06:31 PM

JarodRussell wrote:

Warped9 wrote:

Hyperspace05 wrote:

The worst part was probably the last scene, the 'proto Alien' or whatever. It felt like a cheap way to tie in the film to the Alien series. Not needed at all, and ruined a pretty good last shot.

Thats a fair observation. That last shot of the proto alien emerging was extraneous. At best all they needed to show was the beginnings of something starting or trying to burst through the chest. But actually none of it was needed. When we previously saw the Engineer succumb to the big face hugger we already knew his fate.

They actually pull an AvP?

No I HAVE to see it.

It's not exact, of course, but there is just enough similarity.

roliver · June 10 2012, 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=Hyperspace05;6476710]The biggest plot hole for me was David's lack of interest in what had happened to Shaw. So he orchestrated the whole thing as an experiment to see what would happen [QUOTE]

He intentionally infected Halloway, yes, but he didn't "orchestrate" anything beyond that. He didn't know what the black goo was. It could have been the engineer quivalent of Gatorade as far as he knew.

The popular theory is that Weyland ordered this done, but I can't think of any reason why, since no one at this point in the film has any idea what this stuff is or what it might do.

Heck, even the film itself doesn't seem to know what this stuff does. A tiny amount will disintegrate you over a period of time. Falling face first into it will turn you into an alien zombie. Little alien worms morph into large aggresive critters. Having sex with someone who has been exposed to a tiny amount will cause a squid to grow in your sterile womb.

Is the black goo supposed to be this unpredictable? Was it once something they had a handle on but eventually lost control of? Were they just going to dump it on Earth, grab some popcorn, and see what crazy stuff happened?

Relayer1 · June 10 2012, 07:12 PM

Why all the raving about Fassbender ? OK performance - no better, no worse.

sidious618 · June 10 2012, 08:32 PM

I can definitely see the last scene being extraneous but I have to say that I still really loved it. I feel like there would've been a lot of bitching if we didn't see at least some form of a xenomorph and, c'mon, it was one awesome visual.

BillJ · June 10 2012, 08:36 PM

Relayer1 wrote:

Why all the raving about Fassbender ? OK performance - no better, no worse.

Thought he was the highlight of the film. If they ever reboot TNG, he'd make an awesome Data.

Warped9 · June 10 2012, 08:42 PM

Relayer1 wrote:

Why all the raving about Fassbender ? OK performance - no better, no worse.

Yeah, he did his part well enough, but there was nothing about it that blew me away.

Trekker4747 · June 10 2012, 09:08 PM

Okay, I have to ask. What the fuck was up with the short before the movie? Was that a short film? A trailer for an upcoming movie? A 3D watchers' foreplay? What the hell was it?! I got nothing out of it.

Gep Malakai · June 10 2012, 09:12 PM

Trekker4747 wrote:

Okay, I have to ask. What the fuck was up with the short before the movie? Was that a short film? A trailer for an upcoming movie? A 3D watchers' foreplay? What the hell was it?! I got nothing out of it.

Do you mean the scene from Life of Pi? Basically a trailer, yeah, but they did it by showing us an entire scene from the movie.

Trekker4747 · June 10 2012, 09:31 PM

So if it was a trailer then why wasn't it grouped with the other trailers and, instead, was attached to the movie itself? (In my theater it played after the theater chain's "Feature Presentation" clip.

Warped9 · June 10 2012, 09:38 PM

Gep Malakai wrote:

Trekker4747 wrote:

Okay, I have to ask. What the fuck was up with the short before the movie? Was that a short film? A trailer for an upcoming movie? A 3D watchers' foreplay? What the hell was it?! I got nothing out of it.

Do you mean the scene from Life of Pi? Basically a trailer, yeah, but they did it by showing us an entire scene from the movie.

Hmm, I didn't see any of this where I saw the film.

Gep Malakai · June 10 2012, 09:40 PM

^According to the IMDB page, it's only attached to the 3D prints of Prometheus.

@Trekker: No idea. It was grouped with the trailers when I saw it. It even had a little faux-clapboard title card at the start announcing it was a clip from a longer movie.

Trekker4747 · June 10 2012, 09:47 PM

Gep Malakai wrote:

^According to the IMDB page, it's only attached to the 3D prints of Prometheus.

@Trekker: No idea. It was grouped with the trailers when I saw it. It even had a little faux-clapboard title card at the start announcing it was a clip from a longer movie.

Yeah we had that too, but we had the trailers, then the "Feature Presentation" bit, the clapboard title card and then this... whatever that was which lead right into the movie starting/production company title cards. It was odd to say the least.

Saul · June 10 2012, 10:13 PM

JarodRussell wrote:

Warped9 wrote:

Hyperspace05 wrote:

The worst part was probably the last scene, the 'proto Alien' or whatever. It felt like a cheap way to tie in the film to the Alien series. Not needed at all, and ruined a pretty good last shot.

Thats a fair observation. That last shot of the proto alien emerging was extraneous. At best all they needed to show was the beginnings of something starting or trying to burst through the chest. But actually none of it was needed. When we previously saw the Engineer succumb to the big face hugger we already knew his fate.

They actually pull an AvP?

Now I HAVE to see it.

Between that and certain plot elements it's kinda similar..

Maestro · June 10 2012, 10:53 PM

Still torn between really good and really bad, although I'm leaning more towards bad now.

Nightowl1701 · June 10 2012, 10:56 PM

Hyperspace05 wrote:

The biggest plot hole for me was David's lack of interest in what had happened to Shaw. So he orchestrated the whole thing as an experiment to see what would happen - except that he showed no interest at all in what Shaw removed from her body.

Who says he had no interest? It's not like Weyland GAVE him much of a chance to follow up on Shaw's 'caesarian.' David was thawing his boss out during that, and was basically kept at "Dad's" side from that point until his head went flying. (Weyland, then in a big hurry to meet the Engineer, would have considered the squid-baby a "meat by-product.") EXCEPT FOR when Weyland and Vickers had their father/daughter talk - he might have looked in on it then, and wisely decided to keep it locked up. If already full-grown then, it would certainly explain his complimenting Shaw on her courage/survival drive the next time we see him onscreen.

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June 10 2012, 06:33 PM	#242
roliver Fleet Captain Location: Portland, Maine	Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss [QUOTE=Hyperspace05;6476710]The biggest plot hole for me was David's lack of interest in what had happened to Shaw. So he orchestrated the whole thing as an experiment to see what would happen [QUOTE] He intentionally infected Halloway, yes, but he didn't "orchestrate" anything beyond that. He didn't know what the black goo was. It could have been the engineer quivalent of Gatorade as far as he knew. The popular theory is that Weyland ordered this done, but I can't think of any reason why, since no one at this point in the film has any idea what this stuff is or what it might do. Heck, even the film itself doesn't seem to know what this stuff does. A tiny amount will disintegrate you over a period of time. Falling face first into it will turn you into an alien zombie. Little alien worms morph into large aggresive critters. Having sex with someone who has been exposed to a tiny amount will cause a squid to grow in your sterile womb. Is the black goo supposed to be this unpredictable? Was it once something they had a handle on but eventually lost control of? Were they just going to dump it on Earth, grab some popcorn, and see what crazy stuff happened? __________________ http://www.startreksoundtracks.com

June 10 2012, 07:12 PM	#243
Relayer1 Fleet Captain Location: The Black Country, England	Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss Why all the raving about Fassbender ? OK performance - no better, no worse. __________________ Soon oh soon the light, Pass within and soothe this endless night, And wait here for you, Our reason to be here...

June 10 2012, 08:32 PM	#244
sidious618 Admiral Location: New York, US	Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss I can definitely see the last scene being extraneous but I have to say that I still really loved it. I feel like there would've been a lot of bitching if we didn't see at least some form of a xenomorph and, c'mon, it was one awesome visual. __________________ We've met before, haven't we?

June 10 2012, 09:08 PM	#247
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss Okay, I have to ask. What the fuck was up with the short before the movie? Was that a short film? A trailer for an upcoming movie? A 3D watchers' foreplay? What the hell was it?! I got nothing out of it. __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical.

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June 10 2012, 09:31 PM	#249
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss So if it was a trailer then why wasn't it grouped with the other trailers and, instead, was attached to the movie itself? (In my theater it played after the theater chain's "Feature Presentation" clip. __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical.

June 10 2012, 09:40 PM	#251
Gep Malakai Vice Admiral	Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss ^According to the IMDB page, it's only attached to the 3D prints of Prometheus. @Trekker: No idea. It was grouped with the trailers when I saw it. It even had a little faux-clapboard title card at the start announcing it was a clip from a longer movie. __________________ "From the darkness you must fall, failed and weak, to darkness all." -Kataris

June 10 2012, 10:53 PM	#254
Maestro Vice Admiral Location: Maestro	Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss Still torn between really good and really bad, although I'm leaning more towards bad now. __________________ "When Christians use Jesus for hate-mongering, they ruin Jesus for the rest of us." -Me.