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View Poll Results: Rate Plagues of Night.
Outstanding 58 52.25%
Above Average 35 31.53%
Average 11 9.91%
Below Average 5 4.50%
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Old June 8 2012, 02:40 AM   #301
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President Vaccine's running mate was a version of a former Enterprise security chief from yet another parallel timeline, and they campaigned on a platform of making peace with former enemies. The opposition's campaign slogan was, "You shall have no treaty, no Vaccine, and no Lieutenant Yar!"

(Ohh, brother, that's reaching.)
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Old June 8 2012, 03:42 AM   #302
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I hate trying to post from my phone. It's easy to screw stuff up.
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Old June 8 2012, 04:46 AM   #303
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The inaugeration of President Nanietta Vaccine as supreme leader of the Federation sparked protest today from political spokesmen in the Breen Confederacy, who called it a move motivated by fear and anti-Breen sentiment.

"President Vaccine's appointment to the highest office in the Federation is an obvious and hostile response to the overtures made of late by Domo Virus" claimed Thot Snot, military liaison to the Confederate Congress. "The paranoia inherent in such an act gives the lie to Federation claims of open acceptance and benevolent foreign policy".

The Federation Council denies that President Vaccine's administration is preparing to preemptively block Breen efforts to connect with the Federation, but critics maintain that Vaccine's popularity with the voting public clearly rests on her commitment to Federation security, not on her diplomatic program.

"Some of those alien powers are lethal" notes media analyst Supremehypo th'Chondriac. "President Vaccine knows that a prosperous Federation retains its strength only by preparing for the worse, fortifying our sense of national identity prior to these aliens getting a foot in the door".

Asked whether planned Starfleet war games in the Im'oon System were to use simulated Breen units as opponents, newly appointed spokesman for the President Horace Scrub commented: "The President will announce her plans to the press in due time. For now, it suffices that the people's mandate passes to Vaccine, and her policy is not one of aggression. Preparation is as far as she'll take it".
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Old June 8 2012, 01:21 PM   #304
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Steering this back on topic and moving on from my phone being stupid, I also enjoyed Sisko's involvement in the story. I'm one of the few individuals I know of who didn't have any problems with the way Sisko was portrayed in Rough Beasts of Empire, and was glad that, based on the backlash he got on a professional and personal level, DRGIII didn't backtrack on where he'd taken Sisko's character in RBoE. The way he piggybacked Sisko's thoughts on where he'd been and where his relationship with Rebecca and Kas was going with the larger story arc worked very well, especially as he interacted with Prynn and Bashir.
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Old June 8 2012, 05:15 PM   #305
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Old June 8 2012, 08:14 PM   #306
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I cannot top the typo brigade. Typos go up markedly while posting from a phone.
Is there anything about Ambassador Spock returning to the Federation that contradicts anything in ST XI? I believe that it does wrt to comics series Countdown.
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Old June 8 2012, 10:11 PM   #307
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Outstanding.

My only few gripes about the novel is how Sisko and Tenmei kept on moping about. I skimmed through those chapters. It took awhile for the action to pick up and it did ... at the end ... which left on a spectacular cliff hanger.

I'm glad the next book is coming out in a few weeks. June 26!
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Old June 8 2012, 11:40 PM   #308
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^ After all that has happened to them and their families, I would think they would be entitled to "mope about"!
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Old June 9 2012, 01:13 AM   #309
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TrekMovie's review is up: http://trekmovie.com/2012/06/07/b/
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Old June 10 2012, 02:30 PM   #310
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I voted Above Average - I think I wanted to like this novel more than I had.

It was quite nice, combining plotlines from previous TP novels and creating a single tapestry. But I just kept waiting for some *Wow* moment / feeling, that never actually came. Though it had good character moments, I found the action scenes lacking (excluding the final scenes).

Also, even if I were to wait for Book 2 in order to look at the complete duology, I doubt it'll bring a great big finale to the Typhon Pact arc (as we already have future TP solicited), so I hope I'm wrong, and I'll certainly give the next book a try, but I fear that it'll be "just another" TP story.

Maybe it's because it's "just" Book 1 of 2, but I'd expected a little more.

Oh well - the second book's almost here...
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Old June 10 2012, 03:04 PM   #311
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^Again, the Typhon Pact isn't an "arc," it's just the new status quo. It's like the Klingons and Romulans being around in TOS, or the Romulans and Cardassians being around in TNG. There wasn't any endgame for those political relationships.
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Old June 10 2012, 03:10 PM   #312
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I voted Above Average - I think I wanted to like this novel more than I had.

It was quite nice, combining plotlines from previous TP novels and creating a single tapestry. But I just kept waiting for some *Wow* moment / feeling, that never actually came. Though it had good character moments, I found the action scenes lacking (excluding the final scenes).
My estimation is pretty similar, only that I voted average.

(That's more an effect of the rather limited voting choices here than anything, I would have probably given this one an above average, but in comparison to some other novels I gave the above average because of the lack of an option between above average and outstanding in past TrekBBS novel polls this one isn't quite on the same level.)
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Old June 10 2012, 03:17 PM   #313
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For me, the novels we've seen released under the Typhon Pact banner have been at their best when delving into character development. Seize the Fire was, for me, the weakest book because there wasn't a whole lot of character development, given that the previous Titan novels had pretty much handled the bulk of it and there weren't any new long-term characters introduced, an issue that the other books didn't have because they either introduced new characters or developed existing characters in new ways.

This book, like RBoE, ZSG, and PoD, has tons of character development intermixed with the politics, and that's why I think it succeeds as well as it does, especially because I think DRGIII has a knack for handling character development that rivals CLB, David Mack, Kirsten Beyer, and S.D. Perry.
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^Again, the Typhon Pact isn't an "arc," it's just the new status quo. It's like the Klingons and Romulans being around in TOS, or the Romulans and Cardassians being around in TNG. There wasn't any endgame for those political relationships.
I'm sure you're right Christopher, however when presented as a title, Star Trek Typhon Pact implies IMO some sort of contained narrative (whether mini series, close ended series etc), otherwise why bother with a new title and not have the TP an ongoing presence in the currently-ongoing novel series?

Also, while the Aliens in TOS, TNG and VOY were a part of the status quo (though something can be said in regards to the Klingon/Worf "arc" on TNG), DS9 did have a resolution-of-sorts to various plotlines regarding Cardassians, Bajorans and especially the Dominion.
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Old June 10 2012, 08:09 PM   #315
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yes things are picking up. I think it would be good to see a resolution to the Typhoon Pact. I am unconvinced that it is a stable alliance in the long run.
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