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Old June 9 2012, 10:29 PM   #256
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And is the deal between Marvel and Sony/Fox that detailed that adamantium is securely tied to X-Men? Seems like that metal would be "public domain" as far as the various Marvel movie characters are concerned, don't see why it'd only be latched to X-Men and thus only Fox.(?)
Essentially, if it's mentioned or seen in a FOX-produced Marvel film, FOX holds the rights to it from there on out (which is one of the reasons there were so many fucking worthless and pointless cameos in The Last Stand and X-Men Origins). Marvel has to stay away from basically anything even remotely mutant-related, and adamantium is pretty closely tied to Wolverine.
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Old June 10 2012, 01:57 AM   #257
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Everything mutant related is owned and belonged to Fox...although as an article recently pointed out, Wanda and Pietro might be used by both studios.
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Old June 10 2012, 02:04 AM   #258
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War Machine without the Gatling gun? I call bullshit on that one!
If you scroll down on this page, you'll see a photo where the gun is visibile on his back (at least I think that's the one you mean):
Also no way that armor will be used by a villain. It just looks too damn SILLY. It should be obvious Tony will make a joke about it the moment he sees that thing.

I don't see it being around for more than a scene or two though. It'll be very easy to repaint it back to the gray and black armor that we all know and love.
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Old June 10 2012, 02:13 AM   #259
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I agree there as well. No doubt the script has a few one liners from Tony on the paint design.
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Old June 10 2012, 02:20 AM   #260
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Essentially, if it's mentioned or seen in a FOX-produced Marvel film, FOX holds the rights to it from there on out (which is one of the reasons there were so many fucking worthless and pointless cameos in The Last Stand and X-Men Origins).
Those characters are part of the package of rights whether they appear in cameos or not. The producers include the cameos because they think fans get a kick out of them.
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Old June 10 2012, 02:56 AM   #261
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Essentially, if it's mentioned or seen in a FOX-produced Marvel film, FOX holds the rights to it from there on out (which is one of the reasons there were so many fucking worthless and pointless cameos in The Last Stand and X-Men Origins).
Those characters are part of the package of rights whether they appear in cameos or not. The producers include the cameos because they think fans get a kick out of them.
Yes and no. I believe that there's a codicil in the contracts about if the characters aren't used in 'x' number of years the rights revert back to Marvel.

At least that's the way it was back when Roger Corman made his FF movie. It was never intended for release. It was just so the studio could retain the screen rights.

Nor sure if the X-men movies are like that, but they might be.
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Old June 10 2012, 03:10 AM   #262
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Yes and no. I believe that there's a codicil in the contracts about if the characters aren't used in 'x' number of years the rights revert back to Marvel.

At least that's the way it was back when Roger Corman made his FF movie. It was never intended for release. It was just so the studio could retain the screen rights.

Nor sure if the X-men movies are like that, but they might be.
Yes, that's how the rights work, but the characters come in a bundle basically. Fox renews the X-Men rights every time they make an X-Men movie, and they would lose the rights if they failed to to do so within the number of years stipulated by the contract. But when the rights renew they do so for the whole package of characters. They don't have to say, "Oh, we need to have character X put in a cameo appearance or else we'll lose the rights to that particular character." Fox still controls the film rights to Mole Man, for example, as part of the Fantastic Four rights even though they haven't put him on screen yet. The same goes for any number of Fantastic Four, X-Men, and Daredevil characters.
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Old June 10 2012, 03:41 AM   #263
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There was some interview a while back that revealed that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver could appear in both X-men and Avengers films. But I'd imagine Marvel couldn't call them mutants or mention the fact that Magneto is their father if they ever put them in an Avengers movie.
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Old June 10 2012, 07:27 AM   #264
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that was what i read.

Fury: hey, these are our new public team members, Pietro and Wanda. They've been doing some black ops work for us. Pietro's able to run super fast and Wanda's able to manipulate probabilities.

Stark: Wow, how'd you get those powers?

Wanda: We were just born that way.


not:

Fury: hey, these are our new public team members, Pietro and Wanda. They've been doing some black ops work for us. Pietro's able to run super fast and Wanda's able to manipulate probabilities. Their dad's that guy Magneto who's been running around screaming about mutant rights.
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Old June 10 2012, 07:30 AM   #265
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that was what i read.

Fury: hey, these are our new public team members, Pietro and Wanda. They've been doing some black ops work for us. Pietro's able to run super fast and Wanda's able to manipulate probabilities.

Stark: Wow, how'd you get those powers?

Wanda: We were just born that way.


not:

Fury: hey, these are our new public team members, Pietro and Wanda. They've been doing some black ops work for us. Pietro's able to run super fast and Wanda's able to manipulate probabilities. Their dad's that guy Magneto who's been running around screaming about mutant rights.
Meanwhile...

Audience: COOOOOOOOOL! When is Wolverine showing up?!
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Old June 10 2012, 04:37 PM   #266
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Fox still controls the film rights to Mole Man, for example, as part of the Fantastic Four rights even though they haven't put him on screen yet.
I want a Mole Man movie so bad. A Mole Man card came with my Grateful Dead album.
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Old June 11 2012, 02:07 PM   #267
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Adamantium was first introduced with the S.H.I.E.L.D. Heli-carrier. It predates Wolverine.
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Old June 11 2012, 04:11 PM   #268
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The Kingpin first appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man, but he still belongs to Fox as part of their Daredevil rights.
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Old June 12 2012, 11:49 PM   #269
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Banner. Armor is possibly the mark 8/extermis armor



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Old June 13 2012, 12:02 AM   #270
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Hum, it's certainly not the Mark VI... So it's probably the Mark VIII or whatever he starts off with at the beginning of the film. If Extremis is game-changing or has a different look, I'd imagine they would keep that as secret as they can for as long as they can.

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