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Old June 9 2012, 01:41 PM   #1
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Registry meanings?

I was reading about how the registry numbers on the ships in the 2009 Trek movie all have meanings - the USS Newton NCC-1727, numbered for the year of Isaac Newton's death, the USS Kelvin NCC-0514, numbered for JJ Abrams' Uncle Kelvin's birthdate etc.

And we know the original Enterprise NCC-1701 number was modified from Gene Rodenberry's WWII plane.

Do any of the other ships in Trek have meaningful (in real life, to the show's creators if no-one else) numbers? Surely the hero ship numbers from Voyager (74656) and DS9 (USS Defiant NX-74205) aren't just strings of random digits?
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Old June 9 2012, 02:07 PM   #2
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And we know the original Enterprise NCC-1701 number was modified from Gene Rodenberry's WWII plane.
Is that so? I always thought it was Roddenberry's homage to "Forbidden Planet", where they give "17:01 hours" as the ship's time in one scene.
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Old June 9 2012, 02:32 PM   #3
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And we know the original Enterprise NCC-1701 number was modified from Gene Rodenberry's WWII plane.
Is that so? I always thought it was Roddenberry's homage to "Forbidden Planet", where they give "17:01 hours" as the ship's time in one scene.
Now you've got me wondering where I read it. I'm thinking "The Making of Star Trek" .... but I guess it could be internet nonsense
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Old June 9 2012, 02:40 PM   #4
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What Matt Jefferies had to say about NCC-1701:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/st/intervi...es/page6.shtml
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Old June 9 2012, 02:57 PM   #5
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Do any of the other ships in Trek have meaningful (in real life, to the show's creators if no-one else) numbers? Surely the hero ship numbers from Voyager (74656) and DS9 (USS Defiant NX-74205) aren't just strings of random digits?
They pretty much are, although they were meant to be generally sequential with the Voyager being commissioned after the Defiant.

One early registry created for the Voyager would have been NCC-73602, but it was scrapped when an early design for the ship was scrapped too.
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Old June 9 2012, 03:19 PM   #6
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I forget the details, but one of the Miranda class ships was NCC-1949 after a film the model-maker had worked on.
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Old June 9 2012, 03:35 PM   #7
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That was the Bozeman from "Cause and Effect", NCC-1941 after the Spielberg comedy. Although the underside of the saucer, prominently featured in the repeating collision scene, appears to say NCC-1841 instead.

Also, anything with 227 in it is likely to be a John Eaves homage to his dad's police cruiser number (or was it his badge number?).

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Old June 9 2012, 03:37 PM   #8
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I do this a lot with my kitbashes, but I'm not aware of it being done in Trek outside of the 1941 reference.
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Old June 9 2012, 07:51 PM   #9
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the Challenger was NCC 71099 as a reference to the Challenger space shuttle, which was OV-099 (why the Challenger was OV-099 which was lower than the prototype OV-101 Enterprise i don't know)
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Old June 9 2012, 08:00 PM   #10
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the Challenger was NCC 71099 as a reference to the Challenger space shuttle, which was OV-099 (why the Challenger was OV-099 which was lower than the prototype OV-101 Enterprise i don't know)
Challenger began as a test vehicle (STA-099) then was later upgraded for spaceflight as OV-099. Incidentally, the early mockup/placeholder shuttle Pathfinder was retroactively designated OV-098.

Kind of makes me wonder if there was a similar mockup NX-class ship that might have been designated NX-00.
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Old June 10 2012, 01:08 AM   #11
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I've done a bit of research:

Defiant: 5th February 1974 (74/2/05) - US Mariner 10 returns 1st close-up photos of Venus' cloud structure

Surely that could be enough of a reason for Defiant's registry?
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Old June 10 2012, 02:11 AM   #12
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I'm waiting for the USS Jenny NCC-8675309.
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Old June 10 2012, 07:46 AM   #13
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^ ????????
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Old June 10 2012, 07:58 AM   #14
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Don't mind him. He's like the others before. He saw the name and number on the wall.
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Old June 10 2012, 08:32 PM   #15
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That was the Bozeman from "Cause and Effect", NCC-1941 after the Spielberg comedy. Although the underside of the saucer, prominently featured in the repeating collision scene, appears to say NCC-1841 instead.
That's the one, thanks, Timo

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