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Old June 9 2012, 03:24 PM   #166
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Very disappointed. The film is dramatically arbitrary, full of characters who make irrational or even self-destructive choices for no discernible reason other than that it's necessary for the plot to unfold.
*looks up who wrote the script*
Ah!
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Old June 9 2012, 04:14 PM   #167
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My problem was with them having no concept of any scientific method (as well as being stupid). If they had taken even the most basic precautions but the situation got out of hand due to one or two stupid things (or David's desire to get the ball rolling) the general stupidity level would have come down a few notches.

They could have lifted really basic safety pointers from Stargate SG1 and seriously improved the plot. In fact low tech MALPS would have been better than the mildly irritating floaty things that inexplicably failed to help the guy that owned them find his way to an exit.

STUPID.
The first part of the scientific method is to Test.
Yes - test the air throughout the entire complex by sampling to make sure there are no atmospheric black spots, harmful chemicals, or pathogens. You might test the air on animal subjects in laboratory conditions long before you would expose a human volunteer. I am assuming that they had equipment that checked for airborn pathogens and found none so I'll give a pass there - but assuming that there would be no pathogens in any other chamber would be grossly negligent. By the time you'd detected them, you would already be exposed.

I can get behind the smart ass archaeologist doing it. It's that everybody else, including the biologist and MD also did it that was so stupid. Did they all think that alien bacteria would always kill instantly so there obviously wasn't any?
No, what they were probably thinking was "We can breathe, we can save suit air and we're going to decontaminate in the ship later anyway" so they did it...and thus saved us from five extra minutes of dialogue about airborne pathogens, "parts per million" and atmospheric testing devices.

My issue with the geologist and biologist was that they took no samples and contributed nothing to the trip.
Nobody but Shaw and David got any kind of samples, which was impressive considering how quickly things went downhill after they entered the Space Jockey ship.


How did they get lost? It was his own drones that mapped the complex. Everybody was on the same comms system and the ship monitored their locations. They should have got the message about the storm too but asked for no assistance? If they'd been delayed taking samples on the way out I might have forgiven them. I can only assume they must have switched comms off so they could have a shag. It could have been a glitch in the system I suppose but if so it was poorly represented in the narrative.
The drones hadn't completed the map at the time they got lost, and the storm was messing with the comms before it completely enveloped the complex, and they didn't collect samples on the way out because their imperative was getting outta Dodge. Would you stop to collect rocks and mud if you thought you'd be attacked by a rabid pit bull at any second?
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Old June 9 2012, 04:47 PM   #168
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Just got to watch this. Had to wait a week since all the good seats at the theatre up to yesterday were taken.

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Just came back from it. It was solid, I really really enjoyed it BUT - there was nothing here that made my chest thump and brain race. This film did not get me excited, which is a little bit of a shame.

That's about how I felt. I was a bit disappointed. The first two Alien films took you in at the start and then spit you out, even if you tried to watch it without paying too much attention, they would still keep you at the edge of your seat until the end. Even Alien 4 got me excited quite a bit in a number of scenes (the number 1 through 7 scene, Brad Dourif vs. the Alien to name a few). Prometheus didn't do a lot for me. It was a great film, but not as exciting as I expected.

The thing that I felt most disappointed about is the fact that they


Still, Michael Fassbender, Noomi Rapace and Charlize Theron were all fabulous.

I might watch it again since I have a feeling that I somehow missed something really great somewhere, and I might catch in on a second viewing.
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Old June 9 2012, 05:13 PM   #169
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No, what they were probably thinking was "We can breathe, we can save suit air and we're going to decontaminate in the ship later anyway" so they did it...and thus saved us from five extra minutes of dialogue about airborne pathogens, "parts per million" and atmospheric testing devices.
Lol - did you SEE their decontamination procedure? Given the choice of roasting or having a time-limited visit on my first day, I think I'd keep my helmet on until after we'd tested our impetuous volunteer.

Plus later dialogue suggested that they didn't screen them after they came back. Rapace suggested they run bloodwork only after one of them started showing symptoms. It's a bit late to quarantine at that stage.

Given how inane some of the dialogue was, I think I'd have been more than happy to cut some of drivel out and add in a bit of common sense science.
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Old June 9 2012, 05:16 PM   #170
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A-

I thought it was a pretty good movie. The effects were beautiful, Charlize Theron was beautiful, and Michael Fassbender stole the show.

Sure, there were some problems. Most of the characters did stupid things and the Charlie character annoyed me so much that I was hoping he'd die the minute he stepped off the ship. Still can't say I was disappointed, though. Then again I never really thought Alien was the masterpiece everyone makes it out to be.
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Old June 9 2012, 05:52 PM   #171
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The movie really jumped the shark when she cut the alien out of herself and walked around the rest of the time like nothing happened.
She was NOT walking around like nothing happened, she was staggering and clutching her belly and popping one painkiller after another. She barely made it back into her spacesuit. When the shit hit the fan, she was going on adrenalin, the painkillers and sheer willpower. No idea how long she was lying there after the ship crashed (obviously long enough for her suit air to almost run out, so we'll say a few hours). No doubt once she and David took off in the other Jockey vessel, she would have had to put David back together enough for him to pilot the ship and put her in cryosleep, because she wouldn't survive the trip otherwise.

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There are a few things that irked me, such as Shaw not being as upset about David putting an alien inside her as she should've been, but the general chaotic nature of the ending did excuse the questionable plot points somewhat.
"I guess it's because I'm a human being, and you're just a robot." She likely figured it was Weyland prodding David to do his experiments (or David explained it to her in a deleted scene). David, being "just a robot," was just following his master's orders and bore no personal responsibility. Bit of the same condescending attitude Holloway showed him, when you think about it.
The movie still sucked. She staggered a little but had no problem running and jumping when the plot called for it. The movie looked great the characters and plot were stupid. She pretty quickly forgot David was the one who wanted to freeze her to take the alien home ala Burke from Aliens.


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Old June 9 2012, 06:09 PM   #172
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I'd like to take my 12 year old son who loves SCI-FI - are the Aliens anything like the ones from 'Alien'? - he couldn't go in case.
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Old June 9 2012, 06:26 PM   #173
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I'd like to take my 12 year old son who loves SCI-FI - are the Aliens anything like the ones from 'Alien'? - he couldn't go in case.
It depends on the individual, obviously, but this has an R rating. If you don't want your son seeing Alien, you definitely don't want him seeing Prometheus; it doesn't want for gore or scary stuff.
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Old June 9 2012, 06:41 PM   #174
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I'd like to take my 12 year old son who loves SCI-FI - are the Aliens anything like the ones from 'Alien'? - he couldn't go in case.
Parts are graphic but it's nowhere near as scary as anything from Alien or Aliens. I think at 12 he could handle it.
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Old June 9 2012, 06:46 PM   #175
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She pretty quickly forgot David was the one who wanted to freeze her to take the alien home ala Burke from Aliens.
She'd literally gone straight from the surgery to discovering Wayland (with David being nice and putting a coat over her), then less than a minute later learning "One of [the Engineers] is still alive - and we're going to meet him." Yeah, I'd be pretty distracted myself at that point.

And again, that scene made it pretty clear that Wayland, not David, was the one pulling the strings and calling all the shots. And she considered David a mere machine with no free will of his own who HAD to follow his creator's orders. She accepted David's aid at the film's end because 1) she had no choice if she was gonna live (and vice versa with David) and 2) She was now David's master and he had to follow HER orders.
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Old June 9 2012, 07:16 PM   #176
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Food for thought:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/...read/200177706
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Old June 9 2012, 07:19 PM   #177
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I actually enjoyed it! I'm a fan of the first two Alien movies, and I thought this film made up for the godawful third and fourth movies.

I'm in the minority for this, but I say the Aliens are as scary now as they were in the earlier movies!
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Old June 9 2012, 07:38 PM   #178
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Armond's review

"Ridley Scott Hiccups Alien Fumes in Prometheus"

http://cityarts.info/2012/06/07/a-noxious-burp/
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Old June 9 2012, 08:19 PM   #179
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I do think it felt more like a reboot than an actual prequel.
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Old June 9 2012, 08:56 PM   #180
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It's exactly the feeling I got from the


And I agree that it felt like there was an awful lot of cutting. Sometimes everything felt so rushed as if an hour had been cut in the middle. I think the Director's cut will definitely be better. Unfortunately, that won't be shown in cinemas, so I'd miss the spectacular visuals in the good version.
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