Green Arrow (CW)

[JD]

The more I see of this the better it looks. I've gone from mildly curious to looks pretty good to I want to see this NOW!

[CorporalClegg]

wamdue wrote:

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yeah why did they do that? I know it was something else before it was the Luthor Mansion, but really the show should be looking to set its own tone, it wont do that reusing elements of Smallville.

I agree. I mean, I get why they did it. In fact it's entirely possible that the whole idea originated out of discussion on how to best use the left over SV sets.

But you're right; the thing does just strike a little too close to the old. I liked Hartley-Ollie more than most, but I still think it might be best for them to cut all and any ties to the predecessor if possible.

Of course this is just a pilot, so it's entirely possible they build whole new sets if the show is green lighted.

[theenglish]

The house was the X-Man mansion before it was Luthor's so it can be Ollie's before it becomes Tony Stark's or Bruce Wayne's.

The clips look fine, but why retool the character to the point of changing his name? Why not just call him Green Arrow?

[Captain Craig]

theenglish wrote:

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The clips look fine, but why retool the character to the point of changing his name? Why not just call him Green Arrow?

Despite having a Green Arrow on SV go by that name perhaps they are actually giving audiences some credit in name association.
Thus trying to distance from any confusion with:
Green Hornet
Green Lantern

Both of which were not stellar?
Green descriptive=Lower quality

Just a guess.

[Greg Cox]

Captain Craig wrote:

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Despite having a Green Arrow on SV go by that name perhaps they are actually giving audiences some credit in name association.
Thus trying to distance from any confusion with:
Green Hornet
Green Lantern
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This is a real issue. Us hardcore comix fans can tell them apart, but the average person? Heck, my own next-door neighbor gets Green Hornet and Green Lantern mixed up. So why throw another "Green Comic-Book Guy" at them?

"Green Arrow? He's gay now, right? I think I heard something about that . . . ."

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Captain Craig wrote:

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Green descriptive=Lower quality.

I don't think an association with any particular level of quality has anything to do with it, but rather, as Greg says, simply a desire to avoid confusion on the part of the general public.

[Greg Cox]

Out Of My Vulcan Mind wrote:

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I don't think an association with any particular level of quality has anything to do with it, but rather, as Greg says, simply a desire to avoid confusion on the part of the general public.

Exactly.

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Greg Cox wrote:

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This is a real issue. Us hardcore comix fans can tell them apart, but the average person? Heck, my own next-door neighbor gets Green Hornet and Green Lantern mixed up. So why throw another "Green Comic-Book Guy" at them?

"Green Arrow? He's gay now, right? I think I heard something about that . . . ."

In fact the local drive-time DJs were talking here just last week about "Green Hornet coming out as gay" in DC comics.

[Icemizer]

Well they could always have called him Speedy.

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Icemizer wrote:

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Well they could always have called him Speedy.

Dinah calls him that all the time.

[Donald Draper]

He is calling himself "Arrow". But its possible someone else may call him Green Arrow. Maybe a one off newspaper headline or a dismissive joke by another character.

[theenglish]

Donald Draper wrote:

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He is calling himself "Arrow". But its possible someone else may call him Green Arrow. Maybe a one off newspaper headline or a dismissive joke by another character.

I think the title for a TV series is fine. But in the show itself, the character should keep his comic book name. My guess is that if this series actually gets picked up and moves beyond the original order then we will see the full name.

[Captain Craig]

How often does a shows name change from pilot to series?
If it's happened I have to believe it's rare.
I don't think the show would change to Green Arrow on the title card.

[Donald Draper]

I agree, there is not going to be a title change. I was thinking just a one off reference for fans. He does use Green Arrows. Maybe the phrase will be used that way to describe evidence of his existence.

I have often thought that Superheroes with color based names are odd. I can't imagine anyone naming themselves "Green Arrow" or "Blue Beetle". Its the type of name I could see the press using but in a dismissive way.

[theenglish]

Captain Craig wrote:

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How often does a shows name change from pilot to series?
If it's happened I have to believe it's rare.
I don't think the show would change to Green Arrow on the title card.

The title of the show could certainly stay the same "Arrow" while having Ollie called "Green Arrow". Nobody ever complained about the title Smallville, I don't think.