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Old April 5 2012, 11:26 PM   #796
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Amazing.

I think I see RCS thrusters to control pitch and yaw, but where are thrusters for roll? Is that controlled by the main engines? Can the yaw thrusters be angled to put Polaris into a spin around its roll axis?
there are thrusters on the disc above (and presumably below, though they're not visible in the recent wips, and taking the image frame of reference) the centerline of the ship, which would effect a roll.
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I think I see RCS thrusters to control pitch and yaw, but where are thrusters for roll? Is that controlled by the main engines? Can the yaw thrusters be angled to put Polaris into a spin around its roll axis?
There are four thrusters on either side of the vertical disc, two above and two below, that are visible in numerous renderings. Some of the thrusters, mainly the ones around the aft engine assemblies, can indeed be angled to a limited degree.

Polaris is supposed to be unusual in a number of design aspects, including the size and quantity of its maneuvering thrusters. Being essentially unarmored, it's first line of defense is its exceptional maneuverability. A pair of point-defense guns were retrofitted onto the tips of the forward pylons when Polaris joined the war effort (not to mention the modular sensor suites being entirely replaced with missile racks) which can take out incoming missiles in a pinch, but agility is key to the ship's survival in combat.
Yep, I see them now, thanks. They're rather obvious, too, so I don't know why I saw the others and not those. I'll shamble off now to contemplate my chili, my tortilla chips, and my demons.

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Old June 7 2012, 06:39 PM   #797
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Just when you thought I'd retired and gone away forever...

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Old June 7 2012, 06:58 PM   #798
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I believe I have gotten the vapors....... <passes out>
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Old June 7 2012, 07:32 PM   #799
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The detail is amazing! Very original!
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Old June 7 2012, 08:41 PM   #800
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Alright, that's pretty neat! I hadn't thought of the sails as looking quite so ... sail-like.

It's a shame there's already one dislike on that YouTube video ... I wonder what's up with that? Anyway, I gave you a like to offset it.
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Old June 7 2012, 09:01 PM   #801
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Old June 7 2012, 09:03 PM   #802
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Old June 7 2012, 09:13 PM   #803
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Well, I keep calling them "sails" but the more technical term is probably "drive grids." The general idea is that they capture and focus the spatial distortion from the FTL drive, possibly as a means of increasing navigational accuracy. However, these probably won't appear on many other ship designs, if any, so they may have been a one-off tech innovation that proved impractical on other ship classes or something like that.

As for the dislike on YouTube, ehh, whatever. Some people have nothing better to do. It's really just a rigging test anyway, so I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
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Old June 7 2012, 09:31 PM   #804
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Damn, I love this ship.
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Old June 7 2012, 09:41 PM   #805
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Maybe easier to say that the sails are one of several drive grid configurations, much like a turboprob v. a jet. The Polaris—being a converted civilian vessel—has this type, whereas most dedicated warships have a less-efficient fixed system designed to be more survivable in combat. How's that?
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Old June 7 2012, 09:42 PM   #806
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I kind of preferred the old concept of the undersides of the folding bits being the "sails." Just seems a bit overly elaborate for a propulsion system to me. Great work with the execution though.
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Old June 7 2012, 09:54 PM   #807
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I kind of preferred the old concept of the undersides of the folding bits being the "sails." Just seems a bit overly elaborate for a propulsion system to me. Great work with the execution though.
Maybe that's why they're unique to this class. You can drop the ship on a dime over 50 lightyears but it's a bitch to maintain and repair. And God help you if one of the grids gets knocked out of alignment.
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Old June 7 2012, 10:08 PM   #808
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oil change ... $22
hazardous/radioactive waste disposal fee ... $10
serpentine belt ... $69 (incl install)
balancing and alignment ... $2,000,000
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Old June 7 2012, 10:11 PM   #809
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Way cool!
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Old June 7 2012, 10:12 PM   #810
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I call them grids and/or sails in the script, I think, and I like to think of them as sails - with grids in them. How's that?

Warships and other very large vessels sort of "brute force" the FTL drive using lots of energy channeled through fixed structures. Small vessels like Polaris are somewhat more nimble.

Or, more or less what Vektor and Maurice said.
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