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Old March 22 2012, 06:06 PM   #166
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Re: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter produced by Tim Burton in the work

So, an axe is now a phallic symbol? What in the world are we supposed to think of Daryl shooting his Crossbow, at Zombies on The Walking Dead?

I feel really unclean and ashamed now
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Old March 22 2012, 10:49 PM   #167
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I can't speak for Abe's axe, but I did definitely get the sense that the Pirates 4 Fountain of Youth was a certain, er, anatomical reference, and one that drips, to boot.
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Old March 23 2012, 05:10 AM   #168
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The fucking axe is being treated like Wolverine's claws. Just as Wolvie's little soldiers have to keep erecting themselves, to thrill and delight the audience, Lincoln's axe has to keep rising to the occasion...over and over and over and over. Wolverine's sexiness would be at an end if the claws weren't retractable. Lincoln's axe wouldn't be so thrilling if it just chopped. The way the studio tries to sell this tripe with a clown waving a phallic symbol around is quite annoying because it really does insult our intelligence.
That's what has your knickers in a twist? The axe???
Huh. I'll be damned. That it was a phallic symbol hadn't even crossed my mind. What got me about the trailer was that shot of Walker's eyes as he looked up. That's really all it was. I thought he had the most stunning eyes. Struck me like a bell ringing.

It's not just the axe, stj. Women like their action heroes with emotional vulnerability. The kind that makes men gag a little bit. Wolverine's tough, he has claws, but he's got that vulnerable shit going on that we chicks like. There. You can "call me out on that," as if liking a movie trailer is committing an offense. That Lincoln can also kill vampires is what keeps him from being a Twilight character aka a pussy. I wish I knew why the trailer angers you. There's a difference between something in entertainment that makes you roll your eyes and something that makes you so angry.
I'll give stj credit, discussing a seemingly benign trailer has never been so engrossing, especially when the focal point of said discussion centers around a fucking axe.

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Old March 23 2012, 05:14 AM   #169
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^ Good thing you switched pictures...
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Old March 23 2012, 05:21 AM   #170
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^ Good thing you switched pictures...
Yeah, I figured it was a bit too avant garde for this board.

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Old March 23 2012, 08:51 PM   #171
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okay what the F@#k was that!!

went saw hunger games today and they preview for aberham on the big screen it looks really good. and it got a few laughs after the title came out. same with dark shadows.
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Old March 23 2012, 10:16 PM   #172
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okay what the F@#k was that!!
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Old March 23 2012, 10:35 PM   #173
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I thought they were sizing each other up. lol
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Old April 13 2012, 09:36 PM   #174
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I leave this thread for ten minutes and pretty soon there's penis pictures...

Anyway, just like happened with Captain America, the movie is getting a name change in foreign markets. Maybe it's understandable that in some countries, they want to make it "President" Lincoln for people who've never heard of the guy, but this is what throws me, completely generic vampire related names:

In Italy and Portugal, meanwhile, the title character is gone entirely. The film will be called "The Legend of the Vampire Hunter" and "Secret Diary of the Vampire Hunter," respectively, in those countries.
They've dropped the whole point of the movie! Are they trying to con audiences into thinking this is part of the Twilight franchise or something? Or maybe The Vampire Diaries is big overseas? (At least in that case, there's a legitimate Civil War connection; seeing Abe cleave Damon Salvatore's treasonous Confederate skull in two would be worth the price of admission by itself. )
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Old May 24 2012, 07:48 PM   #175
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Just about a month to go till the June 22 premiere...new trailer, more action, more gore!

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Old May 25 2012, 04:37 AM   #176
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Looks really good, and we get a glimpse of Mary Elizabeth Winstead!
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Old May 25 2012, 06:00 AM   #177
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I think it looks absolutely stunning. I get more excited about this film. I still think this could be the dark horse hit of the summer time.
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Old May 28 2012, 08:06 PM   #178
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Love the beginning, with the transition of the Washington Monument from completed to incomplete (nice use of visual metaphor, oooh fancy.)

This could be the movie that finally upsets the Avengers box office rampage. Well, puts a dent in it anyway...

This is a nice gesture:

The studio also announced that Benjamin Walker, who portrays the slayer of bloodsuckers, and other members of the cast and crew will treat the thousands of sailors serving aboard the Navy aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln to a screening in June.
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Old May 28 2012, 08:30 PM   #179
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Given the millions of people who still deny that the Civil War was about slavery, a movie that says the real problem with the South really wasn't slavery has horrible problems from the get go....
I'm starting to think that your problem with the ax is that you have the enormous handle of one up your posterior, along with at least one very large insect.

It's a movie. One that in my mind doesn't look all that good. But do you really think anyone not already irredeemably stupid is going to think the civil war was actually above ...vampires?

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Old May 28 2012, 09:02 PM   #180
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I truly doubt this movie is going to further the absurd argument that "the war wasn't about slavery," since vampirism is used as a metaphor for slavery. Using metaphor to stand in for something is a fine tradition in sf/f and as long as it's accurate, it's okay. And if the metaphor is needed so that modern audiences can understand the mindset of a distant period of history, the metaphor can actually be better than a straightforward approach to the same material.

Anti-slavery advocates before the war often described slavery as something that threatened the nation as a whole because of its corrupt influence and ability to sap the strength of a free-labor economy. I've never read anyone from 150 years ago use vampirism as a metaphor per se, but that might be just because it didn't become part of popular consciousness till Dracula was published in 1897.

Vampires being far more popular now, they're a good way to translate the mindset of the time into terms a modern audience can understand and also be motivated to pay $12 at the box office to see. If that's the idea, it's pretty ingenious.
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