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Old May 24 2012, 09:16 PM   #31
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Re: Does anyone else dislike Keiko O'brien?

Eh...Keiko became a bitch because she was jealous of Miles' boyfriend Julian. She wasn't nearly as disagreeable in the early episodes where she appeared more frequently and was living on the station. It was after she left the station and Miles hooked up with Julian that she was so harsh when she returned for visits
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Old May 24 2012, 09:16 PM   #32
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Think about when the 2 of them are discussing about how they always eat what she wants to eat so she agrees to try his favorite foods. She complains the whole time he describes Irish cuisine then is discusted when it is laid before her and she barely tries it. I understand if she is vegan or something, but she was very disrespectful of something he enjoyed.
They were newly married at that point, though. In fact, they had been married just the previous episode. They'd naturally be settling in and getting used to being married, which includes getting to know what your spouse likes and doesn't like.
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Old May 24 2012, 11:41 PM   #33
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^ I think I was MORE tolerant when I first got married
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Old May 24 2012, 11:42 PM   #34
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Eh...Keiko became a bitch because she was jealous of Miles' boyfriend Julian. She wasn't nearly as disagreeable in the early episodes where she appeared more frequently and was living on the station. It was after she left the station and Miles hooked up with Julian that she was so harsh when she returned for visits
Another good reason for her not to leave so much. And think of Julian, with Keiko gone, HE kept getting cock blocked by miles.
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Old May 25 2012, 01:41 AM   #35
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^ I think I was MORE tolerant when I first got married
Of course you were. You probably thought marriage meant frequent sex! Miles and Keiko knew better.
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Old May 25 2012, 05:13 PM   #36
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I couldn't stand the character of Keiko the less I saw of her the better.If anything Miles,should have stayed single.
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Old May 25 2012, 06:06 PM   #37
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I reckon O Brien could have had some fun with that cardassian scientist Gilora Rejal.
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Old May 25 2012, 11:12 PM   #38
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Re: Does anyone else dislike Keiko O'brien?

At least Rejal's bickering (Gilora, not the poster Gul Re'jal) wasn't intended to destroy, and Rejal was willing to admit when she was wrong. I never saw Keiko do the latter part.
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Old May 26 2012, 12:30 AM   #39
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At least Rejal's bickering (Gilora, not the poster Gul Re'jal) wasn't intended to destroy, and Rejal was willing to admit when she was wrong. I never saw Keiko do the latter part.
I liked Keiko O'Brien's character. Some of you are commenting and saying that she always whines and moans at O'Brien but it's not really that, it happens when problems arise. Keiko is probably the most realistic wife Star Trek has ever portrayed. Seriously my parents are happily married for about 22 years, but every day there is always some little problem where a few heated words or complaints are exchanged.

That's marriage (and life; two people cooped up together are bound to inevitably argue), but as O'Brien says you then kiss and make up because you love your spouse. I also thought Keiko was the dominant one in the relationship (well in family matters anyway), and in nearly every marriage you always get one partner who tends to be (to a lesser or greater extent) a bit more prominent, vocal and dominant than the other.

Besides just because we haven't actually seen Keiko admit she is wrong about something (though she must have done so once in an episode) doesn't mean she's stubborn and all. I'm pretty certain that Keiko and O'Brien's marriage would not have lasted for so long if Keiko could never admit she is wrong.
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Old May 26 2012, 01:47 AM   #40
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^Unless Miles, bless his heart, was a bit of a pushover....
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Old May 26 2012, 02:44 AM   #41
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I don't get the Keiko-hate. It seems as though the Keiko-haters only recall the fights the O'Briens had, and think she did nothing but nag and complain. It's not as though Miles was perfect and Keiko was just permanently grouchy.
They acted like a real married couple too me.
I think they had great chemistry together.
When they looked at each other, you really believed they were in love and when she did nag him, you believed it too.
They sold me as real.
I don't care how we men play it off as king of the castle but in the home, a women is ALWAYS the boss. Keiko was all that.
Actually, I wanna know how many of those that are Kieko haters are married themselves?
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Old May 26 2012, 02:50 AM   #42
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I also thought Keiko was the dominant one in the relationship (well in family matters anyway), and in nearly every marriage you always get one partner who tends to be (to a lesser or greater extent) a bit more prominent, vocal and dominant than the other.
I wonder if this isn't part of the 'problem'?

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Old May 26 2012, 02:55 AM   #43
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I also thought Keiko was the dominant one in the relationship (well in family matters anyway), and in nearly every marriage you always get one partner who tends to be (to a lesser or greater extent) a bit more prominent, vocal and dominant than the other.
I wonder if this isn't part of the 'problem'?

"OMG the woman is the dominant one?! What the hell she's a BITCH!!!"
The woman IS the dominate one.
Seriously, it doesn't matter what bills you pay or how strong you are, if you do something really wrong, your woman WILL chase you out your own house!
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Old May 26 2012, 03:09 AM   #44
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I also thought Keiko was the dominant one in the relationship (well in family matters anyway), and in nearly every marriage you always get one partner who tends to be (to a lesser or greater extent) a bit more prominent, vocal and dominant than the other.
I wonder if this isn't part of the 'problem'?

"OMG the woman is the dominant one?! What the hell she's a BITCH!!!"
And if O'Brien acted that way to her, he'd be a bastard, plain and simple. So no, no double standard here.
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Old May 26 2012, 11:53 AM   #45
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I wonder if this isn't part of the 'problem'?

"OMG the woman is the dominant one?! What the hell she's a BITCH!!!"
Picard's palm to the face... There's only one bitch I know of in the Star Trek universe and that's Kai Winn. I'm pretty certain everyone will agree that Keiko and Winn are NOTHING alike!
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