TDKR...what if Batman dies???

[Emh]

The Lensman wrote:

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I have no problem with it. I saw a comment recently along the lines of "Marvel has a built a cinematic comic book, whereas Nolan is doing a graphic novel."

Basically, Nolan is telling a complete story and it could change the way comic book properties are done in the future. A director could come in and really do what they want because a reboot would just be a film or two away. And by "reboot" I don't mean they need to redo the origin in every first film. But we could get ballsier stories and the sense of "anything can happen" if we're not trying to create a never ending franchise set in the same universe.

That's exactly how I look it and I'm rather surprised how strongly opposed people against said notion. In the end, it doesn't really matter because in 5-10 years, WB will bring Batman back with a whole new take.

[Starkers]

Silent_Bob wrote:

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Perhaps he'll trip over a brick and regenerate into Adam West.

"And still...not...ginger, old chum."

[Admiral James Kirk]

Emh wrote:

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. In the end, it doesn't really matter because in 5-10 years, WB will bring Batman back with a whole new take.

If DKR is a smash I doubt WB would put Batman on hiatus that long. I give it three years. I hope the next director drops the rubber armor and finally puts Batman in the tights.

[Lonemagpie]

He'll just regenerate. Or get dumped into a Lazarus Pit...

And since the next movie would no doubt be another origin reboot (much as The Amazing Spiderman is), with a different vision and a different cast no matter what happens, then who gives a monkeys?

[Relayer1]

Since I found out they're rebooting it AGAIN, I really couldn't care less.

Enough reboots already !

[RoJoHen]

I want a fitting end to the character arc displayed throughout the last two films. If that means Batman dies, then I'm fine with it as long as it makes sense.

[Mike Farley]

I think the origin of Batman is ingrained well enough in the public's psyche that the next series of movies can skip it and start with Batman already in play.

THE INCREDIBLE HULK did fine without being an origin movie (while briefly touching on the origin). Hell, Burton's BATMAN devoted what? About a minute of screen time to the origin tale?

Just jump in.

[RoJoHen]

^No joke. If you don't know Batman's origin story by now, you've been living under a rock.

[trekkiebaggio]

He was the one who shot his parents right?

I'd like to see more stories that deal with different periods in heroes' lives. I think it'd be interesting to do a trilogy where movie #1 was an origin, #2 was the established hero, and #3 was the death (or just the hero hanging up his cape).

I remember there were a few Robin Hood movies (I think they were made for tv ones) which had a similar structure.

[Hawkeye92]

RoJoHen wrote:

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^No joke. If you don't know Batman's origin story by now, you've been living under a rock.

The origin is mainly for kids and those completely unaware of Batman except just what's in merchandise or games or rides or something. The best thing to do at this point is jump in like everyone said and assume Batman exists in Gotham. If you have a young kid, you can explain the origin to them, if you are an adult and you don't know, google it. When BB came out, I rolled my eyes at another origin because I was a fan and accepted the origin from Burton's Batman, but now I enjoy Nolan's expansion of the origin, but now, Batman is beyond just the fans and readers of comics that unless it's going to be 10-15 years before another movie, there really is no need for it.

[trekkiebaggio]

^Or just have a few second re-cap at the start of the film.

"A young Bruce Wayne witnessed a common criminal murder his parents. Vowing to protect Gotham City from injustice he became The Batman".

Or a Seinfeld-esque:

"Bruce Wayne went to the opera with his parents, yada-yada-yada he dresses up like a bat and fights the criminally insane."

[flavaflav]

It could work if it's done right I suppose. The dude definitely deserves to be killed. the peep has no qualms about killing his mentor and then his best friend, so f em! Let him sleep with the fishies.

[Mike Farley]

I think kids have even less of a need for an origin than adults. None of the various Batman cartoons have started "at the beginning." They all start with an established Batman doing his thing. It's not until the teen and adult years where the obsessive need to have everything explained kicks in.

[Silent_Bob]

trekkiebaggio wrote:

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^Or just have a few second re-cap at the start of the film.

"A young Bruce Wayne witnessed a common criminal murder his parents. Vowing to protect Gotham City from injustice he became The Batman".

Or a Seinfeld-esque:

"Bruce Wayne went to the opera with his parents, yada-yada-yada he dresses up like a bat and fights the criminally insane."

I still think all future origins should be handled the same way Spider-man 2 recapped the events of the first film. Have a brief montage of the key moments of the origin as the opening credits roll- Parents shot, Bats, putting on the bat costume - then dive straight into the actual plot of the film.

[trekkiebaggio]

Silent_Bob wrote:

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I still think all future origins should be handled the same way Spider-man 2 recapped the events of the first film. Have a brief montage of the key moments of the origin as the opening credits roll- Parents shot, Bats, putting on the bat costume - then dive straight into the actual plot of the film.

I'm becoming more fond of my yada-yada-yada idea

But yeah Spider-Man 2 did it well, I also like the route Watchmen and Wolverine went with the mini-movies in the credits.