TP: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!)

[zarkon]

I always thought Before Dishonour was just making up for Tuvix and Endgame.

[fleetcaptain]

Going to look for a copy this friday since I know my B&N usually has the book out before the end of the week, which could be thursday as well sometimes. Going to wait on reading it through, since I'm in the middle of reading the New Earth series.

[WarsTrek1993]

Frontier wrote:

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The Enterprise-E crew has been in shambles and constantly swapping in and out for years now, Voyager has lost it's Captain in Janeway, Sisko got totally ripped to shreds in the last novel to feature him... I don't know if I can take much more.

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Let's not forget Julian, who's basically walking into Section 31's grip once more thanks to Sarina...

[Sjaddix]

JD wrote:

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Even if it's not resolved I'm pretty sure we'll get some more development for Sisko's story in these. The second one specifically refers to Sisko and the Robinson, so he'll be making some kind of an appearance, and if it's as major a role as it sounds, I find it hard to believe that we won't see some kind of movement in the story started in RBoE.

Well here's hoping. Seeing as that is the Bajoran Worm Hole and DS9 on the Cover. And Sisko is the most important character in relation to that. And certainly Sisko needs to be built back up after hitting good old rock bottom.

[Sci]

BritishSeaPower wrote:

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Excited for this. I'm only a few books away from it in my DS9 reading scheme!

And yes, I'd love to see the Defiant reregistered to the NCC-74205-A. As we've seen/heard form the show runners numerous times, that was certainly the intention, but the budget wasn't there. At the very least, changing it to an NCC.

Well, no. RDM said that his intention was for the second Defiant to be be registered NX-74205-A. I see no reason to get rid of the NX -- Mission: Gamma made it clear that the Defiant is still being used as a testbed for new technologies, and frankly I like the idea that the lead ship of every class always retains the NX registry. I'd just like to see her become the NX-74205-A.

Frontier wrote:

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The Enterprise-E crew has been in shambles and constantly swapping in and out for years now,

No, it hasn't. The current crew was put in place in 2008's Greater than the Sum, and has remained in place since. There has been one lead character in Kadahota who left the Enterprise in 2009's Losing the Peace, and she may yet return. Meanwhile, it has been four years (three if you count Kadahota's departure) with the same basic crew in place.

In fact, consider this:

The pre-GttS cast featured in:

• Resistance (2007)
• Q & A (2007)
• Before Dishonor (2007)

The current cast featured in:

• Greater than the Sum (2008)
• Destiny: Gods of Night (2008)
• Destiny: Mere Mortals (2008)
• Destiny: Lost Souls (2008)
• Losing the Peace (2009)
• The Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony (2011)
• The Typhon Pact: The Struggle Within (2011)
• DTI: Watching the Clock (supporting role)

And by every indication, the current lineup will feature in:

• The Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night
• The Typhon Pact: Raise the Dawn
• The Typhon Pact: Brinksmanship
• Cold Equations: The Persistence of Memory
• Cold Equations: Silent Weapons
• Cold Equations: The Body Electric

Three books published in one year, vs. eight books published over four years, with six more on the way. Three books vs. fourteen books.

It is not only wrong to say that the TNG crew has been "in shambles and constantly swapping out" for years, it is spectacularly wrong to say so.

[Stephen!]

Destroying DS9 would seem to be a logical choice, considering that as a relaunch franchise, there hadn't technically been any new DS9 novels in quite a while. And in story terms, almost all of it's former crew have gone their own seperate ways. So the need to keep the station around is kinda moot.

[DS9forever]

I think DS9 has enough major characters still left - Bashir, Ro, Quark, Jake, Kasidy and Rebecca, but a lot of the positions - the first officer, security, engineering etc could be filled with new characters.

[JD]

^Exactly.
I'm one of the people who thinks the station on the second book is a new station on the GQ side of the wormhole. That makes alot more sense to me than destroying DS9 and replacing it with a new station. Besides if they do destroy it then for the new station to be as far along as it appears be on the second cover, then there would have to a pretty big time jump, and I doubt we'll see a jump that big in between the two halves of a duology.

[Christopher]

I also think it's likely to be a station on the Gamma Quadrant side, but I feel constrained to point out a third possibility just for thoroughness's sake: there's no reason there couldn't be two stations on the Bajoran side of the wormhole. Space is pretty roomy, after all.

[MatthiasRussell]

^True. Starfleet could decide to build a new station just for Starfleet personnel and operations, relegating DS9 to civilian control for civilain purposes.

Of course, I don't think the majority of Bajorans would shed a tear if DS9 were to go. The station has been put to good use but it is still a Cardassian design and a reminder of the Occupation, the seat of Gul Dukat.

[shanejayell]

Or building a new station nearer to Bajor itself. *shrug* It IS a Federation mamber now and might need a closer station for various reasons.

[Sho]

Not to mention that a station built to support mining activities is unlikely to be an efficient piece of equipment for much else.

[Shon T'Hara]

Sci wrote:

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Well, no. RDM said that his intention was for the second Defiant to be be registered NX-74205-A. I see no reason to get rid of the NX -- Mission: Gamma made it clear that the Defiant is still being used as a testbed for new technologies, and frankly I like the idea that the lead ship of every class always retains the NX registry. I'd just like to see her become the NX-74205-A.

Except the Excelsior switched to NCC in TUC.

Christopher wrote:

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I also think it's likely to be a station on the Gamma Quadrant side, but I feel constrained to point out a third possibility just for thoroughness's sake: there's no reason there couldn't be two stations on the Bajoran side of the wormhole. Space is pretty roomy, after all.

There's a fourth possibility which you of all people should see: Alternate timeline.

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Shon T'Hara wrote:

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Except the Excelsior switched to NCC in TUC.

And the USS Galaxy did as well (DS9), as did the second Constellation (was NX-1974 in ST VI, and NCC-1974 in subsequent appearances).

[DS9forever]

Isn't DS9 referred to as being the "Gateway to the Celestial Temple" by the Bajorans? That would make it pretty important to them.