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Old May 11 2012, 09:19 PM   #151
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Re: Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes season 2 discussion thread

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I don't think its so much as them cancelling the show its just that it was planned to be a 52 episode series. I'm assuming by the end of season 2 that will wrap up the series. To capitalize on the momentum I'm sure they want to keep the Avengers on the screen in some capacity.
I highly doubt that's the case, though maybe it's how they'll be expected to spin things.

Sucks to hear this news.
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Old May 13 2012, 01:04 AM   #152
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Sorry to hear it's being canceled already. Is there any specific reason why this couldn't have been worked to fit into the USM continuity?
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Old May 13 2012, 03:54 AM   #153
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Sorry to hear it's being canceled already. Is there any specific reason why this couldn't have been worked to fit into the USM continuity?
It's already aired episodes with markedly different takes on some characters, it's storytelling style is very different from USM (and much better, frankly), and, as others have said, it's not an in-house Marvel production, so at the end of the day it really doesn't matter if they could have accommodated those changes.
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Old May 13 2012, 03:08 PM   #154
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Actually, on further investigation, I think I was wrong about that "not in-house" thing I said before. According to IMDb, both shows are collaborations between Marvel Studios and Film Roman Productions. And I've read that the writing on the back half of A:EMH season 2 has been taken over by Man of Action, the group of four writer/producers (Joe Casey, Joe Kelly, Duncan Rouleau, and Steven T. Seagle) who are also the main creative minds behind Ultimate Spider-Man. So the current, more serialized approach to the writing is going to give way after episode 13 to a more episodic approach and a renewed focus on the core team members.

I think that the approach to continuity among animated series is different now than it was before. Back in the '90s, all the DC shows shared a common continuity; the FOX X-Men and Spider-Man shared a continuity; and the syndicated Iron Man, Fantastic Four, and Incredible Hulk were loosely interlinked (though the Hulk series was inconsistent with the Hulk-focus episode of Iron Man). These days, though, the norm seems to be for every show to be in a separate continuity all its own. There's been no continuity among the post-DCAU shows from Warner Bros. like Teen Titans, The Batman, Legion of Super Heroes, Batman: The Brave and the Bold, Young Justice, and Green Lantern: TAS. And of all the Marvel animated shows since 2000 -- X-Men Evolution, the MTV Spider-Man, Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes, The Spectacular Spider-Man, Wolverine and the X-Men, Iron Man: Armored Adventures, The Super Hero Squad Show, Avengers: EMH, and Ultimate Spider-Man -- the only two that share a common continuity are W&tXM and A:EMH, and those only tenuously. (Although there was a bit in a recent USM episode that portrayed the Super Hero Squad world as an alternate dimension.)

So I just don't think it's part of the current mentality of animated superhero shows to have continuity or shared universes between different series. As a rule, every one is in a world all its own.
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Old May 14 2012, 01:47 AM   #155
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So after today's episode we got a new version of Cap's Kooky Quartet even if was put together by the Skrull Captain America.
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Old May 14 2012, 04:45 AM   #156
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This episode was very well-written. I haven't been too impressed with this show so far this season, but this one was terrific stuff. I loved the team interplay and banter in the diner and when they were kibitzing Carol's fight technique, and the writing of the climactic confrontation and the effect of paranoia on the team's cohesion was well-handled. And Skrull-Cap actually doing the exact opposite of what I would've expected him to do was intriguing. So far this season, I haven't liked the writing on Skrull-Cap; he's behaved so predictably un-Cap-like that I felt the Avengers should've caught on to the deception. But here he really got into the role, and I'm not entirely sure why he'd want to convince the team to stay together rather than just let them break up. It surprised me and made Skrull-Cap interesting for the first time ever.
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Old May 14 2012, 06:31 AM   #157
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Just read some "WTF are they smoking?" type news. Apparently Marvel is planning to introduce another Avengers cartoon in 2013 (one that will take place in the same universe as Ultimate Spider-Man and the upcoming Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H.). Obviously they wouldn't have 2 Avengers shows going on at once, so if this is true, they would no doubt cancel Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Forbes article confirms new Avengers Animated TV series to start next year

It really doesn't make much sense. Is it really that important that all of their Disney XD shows share the same universe, especially at the expense of a well performing show?

I'm really hoping there was some kind of misunderstanding somewhere.


First off

-The article got the channel wrong, since they said "Cartoon Network", and it's Disney XD..


-I think people read it wrong. Some can be confused by the article mentioning "new comic" etc etc

Also it's more logical to think THIS series will run into 2013


Whereas this approach saw the feature film as the finish line, the upcoming campaign will “synergize” the Avengers into a “multi-platform brand that can live 365 days a year.” To that end, Marvel is introducing digital initiatives, new print and comic book titles, and The Avengers animated TV series on the in 2013.
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Old May 16 2012, 03:11 AM   #158
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I thought it was interesting the direction this episode took. I think Skrull Cap is trying to play the long game here. I thought for sure this episode would end with the Avengers finding out he was the Skrull. It was nice seeing that wasn't the case, as I think the eventual payoff will be great.

I think it was a blunder on Tony's part to tell everyone that he got the information from Fury. If he suspected a Skrull, he just blew Fury's cover. I'm interested to see if Skrull Cap is the only Skrull on the team, as Tony did give pretty good reasons for most of the Avengers being possible Skrulls (though, I can't tell if it's a good tactical move for the Skrulls if Carol were a Skrull. On one hand, it brought her in contact with the Kree, on the other hand, she was around a Kree for a long time).
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Old May 16 2012, 03:29 AM   #159
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I believe Fury said at the end that he expected Stark to blab everything, that it was a calculated move to get the Skrull off their guard by making them think they'd gained an advantage. So Fury intended his cover to be blown because the strategic gain was worth that sacrifice.

I have a hard time believing Carol is a Skrull. Her reactions toward Mar-Vell and the Kree just seemed too genuine.

So far, the heroes who've been replaced in the show seem to correspond to ones who were replaced in the comics -- Cap, Invisible Woman, Mockingbird. Looking over the Marvel Database summary of Secret Invasion, it looks like there was temporarily an impostor Ms. Marvel, but I'm not sure for how long. There was also an attempt to impersonate Hawkeye, but it seems to have been abortive.
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Old May 16 2012, 03:34 AM   #160
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I agree it's unlikely Carol is a Skrull, but it's for that reason that I am not willing to say, for sure, she isn't. As I said, it would be a helluva tactical move to have her be a Skrull who was not only able to infiltrate the Avengers, but also was able to get close to a Kree).
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Old May 16 2012, 03:50 AM   #161
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I believe Fury said at the end that he expected Stark to blab everything, that it was a calculated move to get the Skrull off their guard by making them think they'd gained an advantage. So Fury intended his cover to be blown because the strategic gain was worth that sacrifice.
And as the ending of the episode points out probably meaningless as his group is already compromised.
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Old May 19 2012, 05:33 AM   #162
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Old May 20 2012, 12:13 AM   #163
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beta ray Bill?

The second most Dangeorus member of Power Pack?

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Black Canary will take any opportunity to show-up a man in hand-to-hand combat, won't she? Give it a rest, bitch. You gonna get hurt one of the days.

Red Arrow taking money...yeah...well, he doesn't have Queen or Wayne industries paying for his lifestyle, does he?

Chesire: "Our son!"....dun-dun-dun-duh!!

"And our....dog!"....dun-dun-dun-duh!!

"And our...TIME SHARE! ...dun-dun-dun-duh!!"

Roy: "Woah...you got us a time share? Get the hell out of here."

VIBE short was the highlight of the morning.

"Let's a do a 2-part Vibe short."

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Old May 20 2012, 02:31 AM   #165
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One of the reasons that the JLA/Avengers cross over never happened in the 80s is that Gerry Conway had Hawkeye and Black Canary getting it on, only a few months after his marriage to Mockingbird.
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