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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
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A 102 31.78%
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B 11 3.43%
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Old May 12 2012, 08:05 PM   #871
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Just got back from it. Pretty good overall but nope, still doesn't beat X-Men 2 as my all-time favorite superhero movie! Glad I took the time to rent Thor this week (the only "set-up" movie I still hadn't seen) because while it's a mediocre movie, it's definitely required viewing for this one. I'd say probably the only one that isn't is The Incredible Hulk.
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Old May 12 2012, 09:30 PM   #872
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I also just watched Thor for the first time. I liked it although I don't think it's awesome. It certainly feels like a comic book come to life, but in a good way. And, yes, it does give you some decent backstory to the character.

I did like Thor's character arc from selfish puts to worthy hero.
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Old May 12 2012, 09:38 PM   #873
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I also just watched Thor for the first time. I liked it although I don't think it's awesome. It certainly feels like a comic book come to life, but in a good way. And, yes, it does give you some decent backstory to the character.

I did like Thor's character arc from selfish puts to worthy hero.
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Old May 12 2012, 09:58 PM   #874
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I'd say probably the only one that isn't is The Incredible Hulk.
Yeah, how do people feel about TIH now? It does definitely feel like the odd one out of the 5 preceding movies. And not just because of the actor change
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Old May 12 2012, 10:26 PM   #875
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I think what the Avengers-era movies have shown is that they should just concentrate on making solid films with sensible interpretations that don't go too far off the reservation.

I think too often they try to unnecessarily come up with thing to make the characters work on the big screen. Thing is, audiences get comic book conventions and won't go run screaming from helicarriers, Asgard and aliens running through a portal. They don't necessarily need a Superman with illegitimate children, Hulks with daddy issues, whatever the hell Catwoman was, organic web shooters and so on.

The Dark Knight is the #3 movie ever so it's not like DC can't get on track.

EDIT: Crap, I posted this in the wrong thread! Sorry...

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Old May 12 2012, 10:40 PM   #876
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1.) What was the purpose of the Chitauri? Once they got into a fight with any professional or contractor army, their days were numbered. If they were to frighten the civilian populace, the Other's plan would have backfired. Killing civilians doesn't make them scared; it makes them mad and mobilizes them to fight against the intruders.
Well, we see at the end that they're commanded by Thanos. Generally, Thanos doesn't care who gets killed, just so long as a lot of people die. He's in love with Mistress Death and getting a fuckton of people killed is the equivalent of sending her a box of flowers.

He's the sort of guy who will indiscriminately exterminate half of all life in the universe just to impress a girl.

The most obvious thing is that he was just going through the motions so that he could get the Cosmic Cube from Loki, and possibly get a shot at the Infinity Gauntlet (if he knows that the Asgardians have it).
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Old May 12 2012, 10:43 PM   #877
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I'd say probably the only one that isn't is The Incredible Hulk.
Yeah, how do people feel about TIH now? It does definitely feel like the odd one out of the 5 preceding movies. And not just because of the actor change
It's certainly feels the least essential, though it's superior as a film to Iron Man 2, one of the films that feels more connected.

The Marvel Studios films would fall into tiers for me:

Great: Iron Man, Captain America: The First Avenger, The Avengers

Very Good: Thor

Good: The Incredible Hulk

Mediocre-at-best: Iron Man 2
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Old May 12 2012, 10:44 PM   #878
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3-D doesn't add a thing. Mind you, it doesn't subtract anything either.
I think it does simply in terms of the colour em.. palate? (is that the word I'm looking for?) I keep taking my glasses off and the film is much brighter and the costumes have much more POP without that filter between you and it - the actual 3D was fine however.
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Old May 12 2012, 11:40 PM   #879
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Just saw it a second time and I loved it almost as much as the first.
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Old May 13 2012, 12:18 AM   #880
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I'd say probably the only one that isn't is The Incredible Hulk.
Yeah, how do people feel about TIH now? It does definitely feel like the odd one out of the 5 preceding movies. And not just because of the actor change
I haven't seen it in a while, but my initial reaction was positive, and I'd probably still feel the same way. I suspect that it doesn't have the same sense of humor that most of the other Marvel movies have -- I recall it being pretty serious with occasional comedic moments -- which might make it the odd one out of the lot (although I still haven't seen Thor).
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Old May 13 2012, 12:30 AM   #881
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I haven't seen it in a while, but my initial reaction was positive, and I'd probably still feel the same way. I suspect that it doesn't have the same sense of humor that most of the other Marvel movies have -- I recall it being pretty serious with occasional comedic moments -- which might make it the odd one out of the lot (although I still haven't seen Thor).
You're right, it is the most serious of the series which IMO is only fitting, considering that Banner's story is kinda the most tragic of all of them. In that way it is the odd one out, but I think it fits his character and I like it a lot.
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Old May 13 2012, 12:44 AM   #882
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The Incredible Hulk is not a bad movie at all, but I felt that it lacked chemistry. Always thought that a quick going-over by a certain Joss Whedon could have done wonders for the script.
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Old May 13 2012, 12:59 AM   #883
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3-D doesn't add a thing. Mind you, it doesn't subtract anything either.
I think it does simply in terms of the colour em.. palate? (is that the word I'm looking for?) I keep taking my glasses off and the film is much brighter and the costumes have much more POP without that filter between you and it - the actual 3D was fine however.
Actually, my problem with the 3-D glasses is that I always get the ones that are half clouded over, so it's never the film itself that bothers me. I'm always taking off and wiping the stupid glasses. On the relative few instances when I get clear glasses, 3-D is great. It's just this time it couldn't make me love the film more than I already did and wasn't distorted enough without the glasses to make me love it less. That's what I mean.
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Old May 13 2012, 03:14 AM   #884
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I saw it again this evening with my buddy in 3D. Third time I've seen the movie inside of a week and likely the last time I'll see it in theaters. I don't think the 3D added much but as others has said it didn't take much away either.

My problem with 3D glasses is that I wear eyeglasses anyway so my regular glasses' frames get pressed in more by the 3D glasses causing some discomfort and even a touch of pain in my temples just from the pressure of two layers of rims.

The movie remains awesome, BTW. I look forward to a BluRay of it.
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Old May 13 2012, 04:41 AM   #885
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Not sure why I didn't notice these things before(too much awesome going on at one time?) but here are some great little inter-continuity things in the film I noticed tonight.

San Paulo
When Coulson is bringing Natasha in or shortly after, the actual sequence isn't important, you see a monitor with BW & HE in action. Atop the monitor it reads Mission: San Paulo.
When BW and Loki are talking about red in her ledger Loki throws a list of events at her and mentions...yep, San Paulo. Which no doubt he got out of Clint but still. Like Budapest, what went down in San Paulo??

Shawarma Palace exterior
Sure Tony mentions it 3 times in 15 seconds near the end and that he saw it but I thought it was an offscreen moment. After Tony plays "Jonah" with one of the flying space slugs he crashes to the ground. Now my eyes went to the Farmers Insurance sign on the building each time, it's bigger and higher in the shot. However, just below and to the left is the banner signage for Shawarma Palace.

IM & Cap teamwork moment
After Loki amplified their misgivings on the hellicarrier you kinda wondered about these guys. Then as the battle ramps up IM takes a big step and tells Cap to "Call It". Near the end of the film in an improved moment to get as many Chitauri as possible IM fires his repulsers at Caps shield creating a broader beam to hit the most Chitauri with. My earlier viewings I just thought IM blasted them independently.
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