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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
C+ 0 0%
C 4 1.25%
C- 1 0.31%
D+ 1 0.31%
D 0 0%
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Old May 9 2012, 07:29 PM   #736
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saw it today and it was awesome. Hawkeye was awesome (and, according to my sister, hot), Black Widow was awesome, the helicarrier was awesome, Thor was awesome, Cap was awesome, Iron Man was awesome, Hulk was awesome, Coulson was awesome, Fury was awesome - particularly using a rocket launcher to shoot an F35 in it's take-off run - Maria Hill was awesome, Loki was awesome. Pepper's denim shorts were awesome.

the only thing stopping me giving it an A+ and not awesome in it?

I know how you feel. Still, more than enough awesomeness to go around...
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Old May 9 2012, 07:34 PM   #737
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I am totally down for that Air Bud remake.
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Old May 9 2012, 08:32 PM   #738
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Joss Whedon doesn't give any credit at all to Zak Penn.
Apparently he didn't filmed a single word from that original screenplay.
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Old May 9 2012, 08:49 PM   #739
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Anyone think it would have been cool to show Captain America picking up Thor's hammer? Maybe during the battle Thor gets knocked for a loop, Cap's shield is lost somewhere, and he reaches for the nearest weapon available. Just until Thor is back on his feet.

Not a "sword in the stone" moment or a "hero wields ultimate weapon" moment, just a quick look of surprise by Thor that confirms what we already know: He's worthy.
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Old May 9 2012, 08:53 PM   #740
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Yeah, it would have been cool to see Cap do it but at the same time probably wouldn't make much sense to those in the audience who don't get what that means especially after seeing Hulk struggle to pick it up. You'd need some exposition in there explaining only those worthy can pick up Mjolnir.
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Old May 9 2012, 09:19 PM   #741
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Joss Whedon doesn't give any credit at all to Zak Penn.
Apparently he didn't filmed a single word from that original screenplay.
Yeah, when you look at Penn's other movies, there's no hint of the kind of wit or complex storytelling that we see in Avengers. Clearly that had to be all Joss.
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Old May 9 2012, 09:21 PM   #742
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Didn't Penn write X-Men: First Class? That flick was pretty well written. Did Vaughn and Jane Goldman do any work on that one? I can't remember.
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Old May 9 2012, 09:22 PM   #743
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Trekker4747 wrote:
Yeah, it would have been cool to see Cap do it but at the same time probably wouldn't make much sense to those in the audience who don't get what that means especially after seeing Hulk struggle to pick it up. You'd need some exposition in there explaining only those worthy can pick up Mjolnir.
True, but that explanation could be made pretty fast. Maybe streamline it by showing Iron Man earlier in the movie also trying to pick it up and failing.
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Old May 9 2012, 09:30 PM   #744
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Didn't Penn write X-Men: First Class? That flick was pretty well written. Did Vaughn and Jane Goldman do any work on that one? I can't remember.
Nope. The writing credits include Ashley Miller, Zack Stenz, Jane Goldman and Matthew Vaughn.
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Old May 9 2012, 09:34 PM   #745
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Didn't Penn write X-Men: First Class? That flick was pretty well written. Did Vaughn and Jane Goldman do any work on that one? I can't remember.
Nope. The writing credits include Ashley Miller, Zack Stenz, Jane Goldman and Matthew Vaughn.
Was he ever involved with FC at all? I seem to remember reading something but... I could be mistaken.
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Old May 9 2012, 09:39 PM   #746
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Zak Penn co-write The Last Stand.
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Old May 9 2012, 09:41 PM   #747
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I know that and about X2. But I could swear I read that he was involved in at least the early stages of First Class. I'd have to do some looking.

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After I poked around a bit, Penn admitted that he was originally signed on to write and direct a "young X-Men film," but that's recently changed. Says Penn, "The original idea was to have me do a young X-Men spin-off, a spin-off of the young X-Men characters. But someone came up with a pretty interesting idea which I can't discuss. I was pretty taken by it, as was the studio. I have to give him credit, it was this guy who worked with me named Mike Chamoy -- he worked a lot with me on X3. He came up with how to do a young X-Men movie which is not what you'd expect. We'll see; I still have to talk to Fox, set the story down ... and then it will take a year -- maybe two years -- to get together. Put it this way, if you agree to do one of the X-Men movies, it could end up happening four or five years down the line. Which is fine with me; it's just not my focus right now."
Looks like he'd been in talks to do FC but it fell through. Well... they certainly traded up. Didn't they?
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Old May 9 2012, 10:17 PM   #748
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Anyone think it would have been cool to show Captain America picking up Thor's hammer? Maybe during the battle Thor gets knocked for a loop, Cap's shield is lost somewhere, and he reaches for the nearest weapon available. Just until Thor is back on his feet.

Not a "sword in the stone" moment or a "hero wields ultimate weapon" moment, just a quick look of surprise by Thor that confirms what we already know: He's worthy.
Or maybe Mjolnir lands at Cap's feet and he just tosses it back to Thor, ala 390.
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Old May 9 2012, 10:18 PM   #749
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Don't look for Spider-man, Beast or Wolverine to join the Avengers lineup anytime during this incarnation of the team with these actors it seems.

Disney has no plans to buy back any Marvel Characters
Disney has no plans to buy back Marvel Comics characters.

The publisher's parent company has revealed that it has no intention of pursuing the rights to properties owned by other studios, reports ComicBook.com.
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Old May 9 2012, 10:28 PM   #750
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I think that makes sense. Spiderman and X-Men stand well on their own. The others would feel out of place too.
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