AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

[JD]

trekkiebaggio wrote:

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Black/'Eye

I like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

I would love a S.H.E.I.L.D. movie focusing on Black Widow and Hawkeye, and Nick Fury and Maria Hill. I really enjoyed Natasha and Clint in the movie, but IMO some of the best stuff came when they were dealing with there relationship, and I would love to see a movie that focused more on that. And I would love more Maria Hill, because what was pretty cool, but we didn't get a lot of development for her. And it would be nice to get some more in depth stuff with Fury too. I honestly don't know if any of those characters could hold a movie themselves, but I think if we kept them together it could lead to some great things.

[Trekker4747]

I thought Thor's intro was very cool, Iron Man's may not have been overly cool but Iron Man in the movies is more about Stark and he got a neat intro. Black Widow probably got the best intro, and the Banner intro was just more interesting in how Ruffalo played him. And then CA's intro, well, we pretty much saw it in his own movie but it was good as it -sort-of- showed us his recovery. But BW certainly got the best introduction.

(Save maybe Hulk's official introduction in the Helicarrier.)

I just got back from seeing it again (and will see it a third time this weekend in 3D) and, man it's still a very satisfying, fun and cool movie. Beyond nitpicks I really don't think I can find any flaws with it.

New nitpicks:

There were times when under Tony's Black Sabbath shirt (and granted he was wearing another shirt under that) you couldn't see the glow of his chest arc-reactor. Now, granted, one could argue it was obscured by the two shirts but then there were other times you could see it.)

The climax with Tony doesn't make much sense when scrutinized. He aims the nuke to go through the wormhole, in theory that's all he should need to do as the rocket's own engines will push the nuke through the wormhole and into the alien ships. There was no need for him to actually go through the wormhole and I'm not sure how he "fell back into it" (no gravity in space and all) but I suppose Earth's gravity could have been working through the wormhole and still had a latch on him because I guess he'd technically need to reach escape velocity even if Earth's footprint through the hole was tiny. But the scene plays well into Tony's "arc" in this movie with him sacrificing himself when the time came as alluded to when he was fighting with CA.


Things I noticed:

The weapon Coulson uses on Loki made the same noise the Destroyer did when it fired. (I'm guessing the weapon's technology was based on salvaging its remains after the events of Thor.)

I think Joss Whedon's "foot fetish" came into play a bit here with Paltrow padding around the new Stark Tower's floor in bare feet as well as Natasha padding around in stocking feet after her "interrogation" with the Russians.

I convinced Fury's "my boat" line was a Firefly nod. While technically calling the Helicarrier that is valid it's just an odd term for such a ship.

Anyone who doesn't think a Black Widow movie will work needs to watch this again and pay attention to her scenes particularly the "interrogation" scene with the Russians, her playing Loki, her talk with Hawkeye in the infirmary and then them talking during the big battle at the end. (BW says the fight reminds her of [some other one] and Hawkeye says back, "You remember [that place] very differently than I do."

Really, I think ScarJo did a great job in all of her scenes (again, superficialness aside).

For an afternoon showing on a weekday the theater was pretty crowded and the audience still laughed at all of the "right times" and with the beats of the movie. As with the other night Hulk pounding Loki got the biggest laugh masking his "Puny god!" line, as did Hulk punching Thor and then Hulk roaring to rouse Tony.

Really, I think this movie is just tons and tons of fun.

[DarkHorizon]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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The weapon Coulson uses on Loki made the same noise the Destroyer did when it fired. (I'm guessing the weapon's technology was based on salvaging its remains after the events of Thor.)

Coulson in fact specifically says so. And, the weapon barrel has the Destroyer's energy 'glow'.

[RoJoHen]

Yeah, Coulson flat out said that the weapon was made after Loki sent The Destroyer to Earth.

[Skywalker]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Loved it, loved it, loved it. So much fun. No, it's not the greatest piece of cinema ever, but it might be the best and most genuine comic book movie ever. All of the characters were pitch perfect, and they all got at least one moment in which to shine. I went with my brother-in-law (who's an even bigger comic book geek than I am) and we both had grins on our faces the entire time. This movie deserves every penny it makes.

A- (some parts in the first act were a little slow and a bit awkward, but that's understandable since there was five movies' worth of setup to get through)

[OdoWanKenobi]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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Anyone who doesn't think a Black Widow movie will work needs to watch this again and pay attention to her scenes particularly the "interrogation" scene with the Russians, her playing Loki, her talk with Hawkeye in the infirmary and then them talking during the big battle at the end. (BW says the fight reminds her of [some other one] and Hawkeye says back, "You remember [that place] very differently than I do."

It was Budapest. I thought that line was pretty funny (partly because of Renner's delivery,) but at every showing I was at it didn't get a laugh.

[Unicron]

Skywalker wrote:

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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Loved it, loved it, loved it. So much fun. No, it's not the greatest piece of cinema ever, but it might be the best and most genuine comic book movie ever. All of the characters were pitch perfect, and they all got at least one moment in which to shine. I went with my brother-in-law (who's an even bigger comic book geek than I am) and we both had grins on our faces the entire time. This movie deserves every penny it makes.

One of the things that impressed me was how much of the dialogue sounds like actual comic dialogue, and how well the majority of it actually worked. That's not an easy thing to pull off and still sound credible.

[Ethros]

It's always nice to see Jeremy Renner doing well, always thought he was cool from his one-time episode of Angel, as the vampire Penn, back in early 2000, Somnambulist

Great episode

[Skywalker]

The Avengers has made $700 million in less than two weeks.

Yeah, comic book movies are on the way out.

[Turtletrekker]

DarkHorizon wrote:

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Coulson in fact specifically says so. And, the weapon barrel has the Destroyer's energy 'glow'.

This is made even more explicit in the "Fury's Big Week" comic. When Selvig makes the breakthrough in re-powering the Destroyer (Which was recovered by SHIELD following the New Mexico incident), Coulson's instructions to Selvig were to "Dismantle it, make it 100 times smaller, and put a trigger on it."

[Turtletrekker]

This piece of "news" should surprise exactly no one-- Avengers 2 is already in the works.

BRING BACK WHEDON!!!

[Admiral James Kirk]

Turtletrekker wrote:

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This piece of "news" should surprise exactly no one-- Avengers 2 is already in the works.

BRING BACK WHEDON!!!

I would be very surprised if Whedon wasn't the only director on their shortlist for Avengers 2.

[Trekker4747]

RoJoHen wrote:

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Yeah, Coulson flat out said that the weapon was made after Loki sent The Destroyer to Earth.

Yes, I heard that part the first time around. What I didn't catch was that the weapon itself was based on The Destroyer's technology/"main weapon."

Just because it was made after the Destroyer's attack doesn't mean that it was made to operate as one.

As for Fury's Big Week Comic. I picked up #2 and #3 the other day at my LCS for FCBD, and am holding off on reading them until I can get my hands on #1 and #4.

[Admiral James Kirk]

Turtletrekker did mention that the Fury's Big Week comic set up Coulson's Lokiblaster as a stripped down version of the Destroyer's weapon. Marvel published it, so it's as good a canon.

[sojourner]

Saw the movie today and really enjoyed it. Really well done.

Haven't read through this thread so not sure if anyone else has mentioned it, but the closest I can come to a nitpick is CA's mask/helmet. It just didn't look right to me. A little to square-ish on top, and the nose should have been covered either more or less. Where they ended the mask right in the middle of the nose just looked strange.