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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
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Old May 8 2012, 02:54 AM   #616
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But Thor? Nope. Reset button. He came to Earth for a few days, helped save the world, then he went back home more-or-less like nothing happened.
Honestly, I hope that Jane addresses this in the next Thor movie, and I hope he gets a big slap in the face for not visiting her.

I do hope Jane addresses this with Thor. But slapping him? I think she'd be a little more grateful to him than that. He was a little busy saving the planet and everybody on it, including her...
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Old May 8 2012, 02:56 AM   #617
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This movie was fucking awesome. Holy shit. I do wish that Thor had a bigger part, especially since his frickin' brother is the main villain, but other than that I think every character was used the perfect amount of time. I admit I didn't remotely give a shit about Black Widow in "Iron Man 2," but she became one of my favorite characters in this movie.
Oh I gave plenty of shit about Black Widow in Iron Man 2 (mostly for superficial reasons) and in this movie those superficial reasons came back 10 fold but were also compounded by the great use of her here.

I don't see why so many are down on ScarJo and her in this movie I thought she did a good job with everything she was given. She was great in the "interrogation" scene.
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Old May 8 2012, 02:57 AM   #618
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I had no problem with her in either Avengers or Iron Man 2.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:01 AM   #619
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Same here, (aside from superficial reasons) I really liked her in Iron Man 2. In this movie I thought her best scenes were the interrogation scene, her scene with Loki, scene with Hawkeye and her scene in "recruiting" Banner. I guess, really, all of her key scenes seemed very well done and played by her.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:01 AM   #620
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But Thor? Nope. Reset button. He came to Earth for a few days, helped save the world, then he went back home more-or-less like nothing happened.
Honestly, I hope that Jane addresses this in the next Thor movie, and I hope he gets a big slap in the face for not visiting her.

I do hope Jane addresses this with Thor. But slapping him? I think she'd be a little more grateful to him than that. He was a little busy saving the planet and everybody on it, including her...
As long she doesn't hit him with her car again.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:03 AM   #621
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Old May 8 2012, 03:04 AM   #622
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I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but Loki's "partner" was listed in the credits as "the Other", and was played by Alexis Denisof. Not surprising, considering Whedon's penchant for using actors from his previous projects, but I thought it was kind of neat anyway.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:08 AM   #623
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Same here, (aside from superficial reasons) I really liked her in Iron Man 2. In this movie I thought her best scenes were the interrogation scene, her scene with Loki, scene with Hawkeye and her scene in "recruiting" Banner. I guess, really, all of her key scenes seemed very well done and played by her.
Her action scene "It's gonna be fun" to get to the key moment of the movie where she closes the portal. She was integral at every step.

Bring Banner
Trick the Master Trickster into showing his hand
Get Hawkeye back under control
Close the Portal

Black Widow was not just idle eye candy in this movie at all.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:09 AM   #624
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Indeed, she was used very well in this movie.

Black Widow was not just idle eye candy in this movie at all.
Which is why Joss Whedon rocks.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:15 AM   #625
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I mean, it's not like she had anything important to do in IM 2, like rebooting the VTRB or anything.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:19 AM   #626
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True, I've never understood the dismissive nature people assign to her in IM2 either, frankly the whole movie but her especially.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:23 AM   #627
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I watched IM2 again last night and thought it was just terrific. Maybe not as strong as the original but it was still a damn fun movie. Scarlett was just fine.
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Old May 8 2012, 03:24 AM   #628
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True, I've never understood the dismissive nature people assign to her in IM2 either, frankly the whole movie but her especially.
Not much of a fan of IM2, I always felt BW didn't belong in it. The entire film was a letdown from the first IM.

Avengers did a WAY better job with her though.
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Anyone else think Thor's reset-button got hit as far as this movie's events are concerned? Consider that everyone else's character got a bit more developed but with Thor his coming back is pretty much hand-waved with an "Ohhh. Odin spent a lot of money to get you here." (or something.) And then at the end the Tesseract is used to bring Thor and Loki back to Asgard with only lip service played to Jane Foster.

It seems like it was like "Uhhh... We need Thor to come back for the movie, but we also need him back stuck in Asgard at the end in order for the next movie to deal with him getting back to Jane/Jane getting to him."

I mean Captain America emerges as a leader and adapts more to life in the 21st century, Tony Stark grows up a bit more (and risks his life to save NYC), Banner gains yet more control of The Hulk and shows himself more of a hero and even Black Widow gets some development. All of this will translate into their next movies. But Thor? Nope. Reset button. He came to Earth for a few days, helped save the world, then he went back home more-or-less like nothing happened.
Oh, that's not good.
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I know the Marvel heads haven't publicly mentioned a solo Black Widow film yet, that I've seen but Scarlet thinks one should be done and use Bourne as the template or style. She's had talks with Friege about it but whether that was a courtesy talk or if there is some consideration is yet to bear out.

Scarlett Johansson has revealed that she won't appear in Iron Man 3, but is still hoping to launch a Jason Bourne-inspired Black Widow movie franchise.

The Avengers star told ScreenRant that she has had discussions with Marvel producer Kevin Feige about a Black Widow spinoff.

"I personally think there's an awesome Black Widow movie [to be made]. A Bourne type of film that would take the comic book genre in a completely different direction," he said.

"It would be awesome. I've spoken to Marvel about it, there's so much story there to draw from."
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