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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
C+ 0 0%
C 4 1.25%
C- 1 0.31%
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Old May 7 2012, 08:06 AM   #571
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Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

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I would love a Joss written Hulk flick but he's not necessarily the only person who could write a good Hulk movie. Peter David might be able to write an interesting Hulk movie based on the post-Avengers version. Then again PAD has minimal experience in screenwriting and NO experience writing big budget productions...He does however have TONS of Hulk writing experience. I would prefer that Joss write it, though.
What about a Peter David story for a Joss Whedon script?
On the face of it that sounds like a match made in heaven, but I think they're a little too similar. Each has a sensibility for characterisation and whimsy and I don't see that they'd complement each other. David does, however, place a little more emphasis on story (IMHO), and I remember him as having a knack for showing us new sides to existing characters. Maybe he should co-write a Hulk movie or turn in a draft on his own. (Peraps he could disinter the story he allegedly pitched for what became the 2003 movie.) David could probably also work wonders with other properties such as Thor, Iron Man, the FF or the X-Men.

Here's Peter David's review of the Avengers movie.
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Old May 7 2012, 08:33 AM   #572
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Which brings up my nitpicky complaint that Joss (or whoever) seemed to forget that walking around outside at high altitude isn't exactly possible. The Hellicarrier was flying over the clouds which would put it at the same altitude commercial jets fly at, around 30,000-40,000 feet. At that height it's not only very cold but there's practically no air to breathe. Yet we see Captain America, Hawkeye and Nick Fury all outside while the Hellicarrier is flying at altitude, there were also times when a plane or something was at altitude and someone would open a door or something which, again, would de-pressurize the craft which would be bad news for the exposed mortals inside.

Iron Man in a pressurized suit wouldn't be bothered by the lack of air, nor would Hulk or Thor likely be bothered but Hawkeye, Black Widow, Nick Fury and even Captain America are still mortal humans that come with all of the expected weaknesses. (IIRC Captain America is only at peak human capabilities and not strictly "super powered.")

So it stood out as odd to me to see the mortal human characters outside at high altitude (again with very thin air and very cold temperatures) without really being bothered by it. That's probably one thing that took me out of the movie if even only a little bit.
I think it is because they all are "super serumed". When Hawkeye took out the turbine, all the "rogue shield" agents were donning breathing masks before he opened the rear ramp to take his shot.
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Old May 7 2012, 08:56 AM   #573
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God I loved this film!

Saw it last night. It was very entertaining - emotional stakes, high energy, and very funny too. Hulk stole the film for me, and I loved Black Widow too.

They did a great job of meshing all of the different superheros in one fighting unit, and it was so much fun along the way! Probably my favourite Marvel film at the moment.
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Old May 7 2012, 09:43 AM   #574
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I saw it again yesterday, with my wife. My earlier review still stands: a very well balanced action film.
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Old May 7 2012, 11:25 AM   #575
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I think it is because they all are "super serumed". When Hawkeye took out the turbine, all the "rogue shield" agents were donning breathing masks before he opened the rear ramp to take his shot.
Yeah, I sort of figured maybe Hawkeye's possession by Loki granted him powers, but then realized Hawkeye and Black Widow (at least in comics) have something akin to the super-soldier serum. (But, we could argue we don't know that's the case in the movies.)

It seems like something that should have been addressed, though, because there are plenty of scenes where we see people exposed to the outside at altitude with no apparent problems.
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Old May 7 2012, 01:36 PM   #576
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Nathan could be great fun as Hank. I wonder who would be his Janet?
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Old May 7 2012, 02:39 PM   #577
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I know it's faithful to the comics, but that helmet/headdress of Loki's looked kinda dumb.
Weren't you complaining about people changing Superman's outfit? I would have thought you would have liked comicbook faithfulness at all costs.
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Old May 7 2012, 03:10 PM   #578
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Behind the scenes of the after credits scene


http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/05/0...gers-secret/3/

It’s the day after filming the new scene — weirdly, two days after the premiere — and Chris Hemsworth and Jeremy Renner are seated at a conference table in the Four Seasons Hotel, joking about the look of their respective LEGO figurines. Mark Ruffalo is playing “Hulk SMASH!” with a few of the Hasbro toys scattered across the table while Joss Whedon looks on. We’re waiting for the rest to arrive.
Robert Downey Jr. has just entered the room, and immediately begins mocking the prosthetic that Evans needed to hide his beard for the scene. (Evans also, you’ll notice, covers his face throughout that footage by resting his cheek against his hand.)
“Where is Chris Evans? Getting his face replaced?” Downey asks.
Evans hasn’t arrived yet, but that doesn’t hold back Downey. “Chris, why the long face? Chris, why the WRONG face?” Downey says as the other guys laugh.
Ruffalo shakes his head, his lips pursed. “Oh no …”
“I felt so bad for him!” Hemsworth says, wincing. He makes a swallowed sound, like someone trying to speak through glued-shut lips.
Downey twists his face into an Elephant Man snarl. “Hey guys, I am not an animal,” he mutters.
Pah! Out of nowhere, a rocket from an Iron Man toy fires just past Ruffalo’s head, nearly hitting the real Iron Man beside him.
“What the f–k did you just do?” Downey asks, still giddy.
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Old May 7 2012, 03:10 PM   #579
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I didn't find Loki's helmet dumb at all, and was surprised by that. It looks kind of regal if anything. Cap's uniform worked better than expected, too.
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Old May 7 2012, 05:08 PM   #580
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Behind the scenes of the after credits scene


http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/05/0...gers-secret/3/

It’s the day after filming the new scene — weirdly, two days after the premiere — and Chris Hemsworth and Jeremy Renner are seated at a conference table in the Four Seasons Hotel, joking about the look of their respective LEGO figurines. Mark Ruffalo is playing “Hulk SMASH!” with a few of the Hasbro toys scattered across the table while Joss Whedon looks on. We’re waiting for the rest to arrive.
Robert Downey Jr. has just entered the room, and immediately begins mocking the prosthetic that Evans needed to hide his beard for the scene. (Evans also, you’ll notice, covers his face throughout that footage by resting his cheek against his hand.)
“Where is Chris Evans? Getting his face replaced?” Downey asks.
Evans hasn’t arrived yet, but that doesn’t hold back Downey. “Chris, why the long face? Chris, why the WRONG face?” Downey says as the other guys laugh.
Ruffalo shakes his head, his lips pursed. “Oh no …”
“I felt so bad for him!” Hemsworth says, wincing. He makes a swallowed sound, like someone trying to speak through glued-shut lips.
Downey twists his face into an Elephant Man snarl. “Hey guys, I am not an animal,” he mutters.
Pah! Out of nowhere, a rocket from an Iron Man toy fires just past Ruffalo’s head, nearly hitting the real Iron Man beside him.
“What the f–k did you just do?” Downey asks, still giddy.
No wonder Ruffalo looked like he was about to burst out in laughter during that final scene. Actually you can tell they are look like they are trying their hardest not to laugh.
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Old May 7 2012, 05:47 PM   #581
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As for a solo Hulk film with Ruffalo? I'd be interested in seeing it but I think the biggest hurdle is I think the Hulk works best with someone else. When Banner is Hulk he's not much more than ass-punching and quips. Which really only worked here because of the way he played off the others.
Agreed. As good as Ruffalo was, I still think the Hulk is too one-note a character to build an entire movie around. Banner is either trying hard NOT to turn into the Hulk, or he IS the Hulk and is destroying everything around him.

And... that's pretty much all there is.

And there's only so many times you can explore the "rage within" theme. Yes, we get it already.
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Old May 7 2012, 05:56 PM   #582
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Unless we get us a grey-skinned mobster Hulk, as in David's run.
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Old May 7 2012, 05:58 PM   #583
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My idea for a Hulk film is this:

In the aftermath of The Avengers Bruce Banner is finally free to return to a normal life. Bruce tries to reestablish his relationship with Betty, his career as a research scientist and his friendship with young lab assistant Rick Jones.

General Ross-embittered by losing out on the Hulk bio-tech to S.H.I.E.L.D-turns to Samuel Sterns for help. Soon after a Hulk-like monster is attacking S.H.I.E.L.D facilities and the hunt for Dr. Banner is back on, with Ross leading the charge.

In a battle with Ross' forces Betty is mortally injured and Bruce manages to save her life with a blood transfusion which has the side-effect of transforming her into the She Hulk. The two of them on the run engage in a whirlwind Hulk romance which is put to the test when it is revealed that the Hulk attacking the S.H.I.E.L.D. facilities is in fact Ross himself as the Red Hulk. Hulk is forced to evolve into a more intelligent, cunning, Joe Fixit style Hulk to outthink Ross in battle.

Naturally Hulk and Betty Shulk knock Ross into next week and we're left with Samuel Sterns deciding: "If you want it done right, you've got to do it yourself." That would lead into Hulk 3 or maybe an Avengers sequel.

Just a thought...
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Old May 7 2012, 06:05 PM   #584
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^^^^
I like the thought you've put into the blueprint for a new solo Hulk film spinning out of Avengers!!


As we await the actuals for this weekend that are calling for a 3-day total around $204-207m there is this news from Canada.

Avengers debuts with record $15.5m opening weekend in Canada.
TORONTO – The Avengers set the biggest opening weekend box office record in Canada.The Marvel blockbuster opened with $15.5 million in ticket receipts, Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures Canada reported Monday.
That broke the previous record Canadian opener of $12.9 million posted last year by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2.
Disney didn't break out its Canadian screen count for the opening weekend north of the border.
Smashing the Canadian record came as the Disney and Marvel superhero movie pulled in $207.1 million at the domestic box office, also the biggest debut ever for North America.
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Old May 7 2012, 06:09 PM   #585
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I like the thought you've put into the blueprint for a new solo Hulk film spinning out of Avengers!!

Thank you.
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