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Old May 1 2012, 07:08 PM   #16
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Re: Just when you thought Star Trek bad guys couldn't get any lamer ..

The Hirogen are awesome. So there. I don't care what anyone else thinks.
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Old May 1 2012, 10:42 PM   #17
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Re: Just when you thought Star Trek bad guys couldn't get any lamer ..

I have no problem with them. Thought the nets and trophies quite creepy. I like the idea of a species that is nomadic too.
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Old May 1 2012, 11:00 PM   #18
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Re: Just when you thought Star Trek bad guys couldn't get any lamer ..

Nomadic like the Kazon?
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Old May 1 2012, 11:17 PM   #19
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Re: Just when you thought Star Trek bad guys couldn't get any lamer ..

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Is it ever established whether these bone collectors created the communications network, or whether they stole it? You can spoiler me
I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the Hirogen were once a peaceful technologically-advanced culture centuries before, and it was this culture that built the comm network. However, for whatever reason their culture degenerated into what you see now. They still know that the network is theirs, but either they don't know how to use it or have lost the ability to build more.

Take this info with a grain of salt however, as I don't remember where I got it from.
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Old May 2 2012, 12:16 AM   #20
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Nomadic as in, no home world, just their ships and some stop over points. I can imagine a race that is nomadic by instinct for whom settling in one place is as uncomfortable as wandering your whole life would be for humans.
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Old May 2 2012, 12:19 AM   #21
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Did anyone else notice how they kind of shrunk or was it just me? I mean I remember in the first episode we saw them they were all like seven feet tall or at least looked like it and then by the last time we saw them some were eye to eye with Janeway. Personally I liked the idea of the Hirogen having a much higher average height.
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Old May 2 2012, 12:27 AM   #22
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Re: Just when you thought Star Trek bad guys couldn't get any lamer ..

did anyone notice that we never saw a female hirogen, yet they were suppose to be nomadic? surely that should mean they lived together on the ships...
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Old May 2 2012, 02:33 AM   #23
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Maybe we did see females but didn't notice. Maybe the Hirogen are more reptilian than mammalian and the females don't have breasts.
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Old May 2 2012, 02:58 AM   #24
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Re: Just when you thought Star Trek bad guys couldn't get any lamer ..

Saw Prey last night. Not bad ....

They are still very one dimensional but pretty badass

I found the Janeway / Seven interplay a lot more interesting though.

What the hell is Species 8472 supposed to be? A CGI fart?
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Old May 2 2012, 03:40 AM   #25
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8472 is about that insubstantial in the long run.

They were just too expensive to be usable.

The Founders were as cheap as giving Colm Meany some additional lines, to a bankruption from some extreme CGI-poloozaing..
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Old May 2 2012, 08:44 AM   #26
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Did anyone else notice how they kind of shrunk or was it just me? I mean I remember in the first episode we saw them they were all like seven feet tall or at least looked like it and then by the last time we saw them some were eye to eye with Janeway. Personally I liked the idea of the Hirogen having a much higher average height.
I'm guessing that they ran out of super tall actors and just used slightly taller than average actors.
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Old May 2 2012, 08:57 AM   #27
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And yes SEVEN ROCKS! And you shouldn't skip any episodes with 7 in them. Especially not when she appears in a black turtleneck.
So basically every VOY episode from S4 onwards?
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Old May 2 2012, 09:52 AM   #28
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And yes SEVEN ROCKS! And you shouldn't skip any episodes with 7 in them. Especially not when she appears in a black turtleneck.
So basically every VOY episode from S4 onwards?
Yep.

And YEP again.
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Old May 2 2012, 10:38 AM   #29
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Maybe we did see females but didn't notice. Maybe the Hirogen are more reptilian than mammalian and the females don't have breasts.
if that was so, then why in "Flesh in Blood" was the lead Hirogen disrespectful to Janeway because she was female. The leader clearly insunuiated that she couldn't lead because she was a woman and that the technician shouldn't follow her because of it. kind of implies they were treated as second class citerzens. also it is noted on memory alpha

Little is known about Hirogen women, though it has been suggested that they pursued male hunters in possession of rare or unique trophies acquired during a hunt. (VOY: "Hunters")
The Hirogen social structure was organized into packs of male hunters, each led by a Hirogen known as the Alpha.
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The women are all on the special egg ships. They are the ones that knit the nets.
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