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Old April 30 2012, 09:47 PM   #31
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Re: Dumbest Log Entry Ever

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Ultimately, the logs are a storytelling device. It's no worse than the problems with any other type of voiceover narration, or first-person storytelling in prose. When, say, MacGyver or Burn Notice's Michael Weston narrates the story in voiceover, who is he talking to? And in the Dresden Files novels (which are told in first person by Harry Dresden), it always amuses me when Harry tells the readers about his magic fairy cleaning service that he can't tell anyone about or the fairies will quit. In first-person prose narratives in general, you can wonder what opportunity the narrator had to write this down, how they got the talent to write it professionally, how they remember every line of dialogue verbatim, etc. And then you've got the extreme case of something like the movie Sunset Boulevard, which is narrated by a dead man. Talk about lack of opportunity!

So first-person narration often can't be taken literally. Sometimes it's just a figurative device, and that's what the captains' logs in ST became.
I'd like to add Quantum Leap into that list as well. Here's this guy bouncing around time and space without even his clothes, yet he pauses to narrate events that he's witnessing, apparently to himself! Maybe it's Dr Beckett's way of keeping his sanity intact?
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Old April 30 2012, 09:59 PM   #32
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Re: Dumbest Log Entry Ever

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. . . So first-person narration often can't be taken literally. Sometimes it's just a figurative device, and that's what the captains' logs in ST became.
True, but then they shouldn't have used the words "Captain's log." A ship's log (or any log, for that matter) is, by definition, a written record. It can presumably be dictated into a recording device and transcribed, but unless it's recorded, it isn't a log.

"Captain's expository voiceover narration, stardate such-and-such" does sound a bit awkward, though.
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Old April 30 2012, 10:03 PM   #33
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ST:TNG

"Elementary Dear Data"

Picard- "We've reached the rendevous coordinates early and have absolutely nothing to do".

WTF!!!
What's wrong with that? Ship's logs aren't only entered when something exciting happens, they're a chronicle of the entire voyage for the official record. That includes the slow periods too.

And again, the primary purpose is to give exposition to the audience, so it's best not to take them too literally in any case.
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