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Old April 23 2012, 03:05 PM   #16
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To be honest methos I am self taught in photoshop and everything I learned was a case of hit and miss or trial by error.
Not familar with this after effects, sounds a little complicated but will check it out cheers.
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Old April 23 2012, 09:48 PM   #17
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some more retro stuff...............

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Old April 24 2012, 07:03 AM   #18
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On both of those her head seems too big. And the blending into the clouds in the background of the second image are, to be frank, crap. I know you can do better. You've done a lot better up-thread.

Also, where are all of these source images coming from? I'd kinda like to see more...

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Old April 24 2012, 10:56 AM   #19
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Thanks for the feedback albertese.

I adjusted the headsize in the first one but the problem was /is I dont believe the HS is to big, it has to be proportionate to her hand size and other body parts.I narrowed the neck as I think it was the neck that made the image seem off.

I made both of these around 2 years ago when i was starting off and you are right about the second image which I have deleted, I chose a shite headshot to begin with.
Will rework the second one again later on, as it is far to good a mat. bodyshot to let go to waste.


As for those mats, I got them on a site a good while back, will try to find if I still have it and will PM you the link.
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Old April 24 2012, 02:32 PM   #20
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That looks much improved.

I use Photoshop all the time. Let me make a couple technical suggestions...

1) This last image is a good candidate for learning a bit about color overlay layers. Both the actress's head and the model's arms look a little pale to my eye. Now, I realize the model was probably shot there on location, so her arm is technically right, but if you wanted her to look a little bit more tanned, you could use an overlay layer and paint over the skin parts with a kind of gold color. Overlay layers can do unpredictable things if you're not familiar with them, so experiment.

2) More importantly, the shadows on the head do not match the shadows for the rest of the image. It's pretty easy to paint in fake shadows and highlights with the Dodge and Burn tools. Go in many very faint brush strokes and build the effect in gradually, a little goes a long way. This too can behave unpredictably if you're not familiar with the tool.

It's not Trek related, but if you want to see something I've done along these lines go to my website where you'll find a pic of a girl I know that I did some adjusting to. The original image in the description part, and you can see that the lighting on the Photoshoped piece looks more incandescent; that's the overlay. Also, you'll note that the shoulder it not in a coat. The shoulder is actually a pic of another girl I know that I played with the color and even the shape of it and made it fit the first image. The back of her neck is a total fabrication which I just painted in place using color samples from the other skin parts of the image. Also, the red dress was originally a brown dress; I changed the color using the curves tool.

I don't know if you already know this stuff or not. You mentioned you were self-taught and I know Photoshop is big enough that the cool stuff can be overlooked if no one points it out to you.

I hope this helps!

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Old April 24 2012, 03:01 PM   #21
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cheers albertese.......

If honest i use approx only less than 10% of photshop, besides, cloning, brushing and layers and a bit of lighting and filters thats about the sum of it.I was in my late 30s before i got my first ever computer and took time to get use to it so you can imagine what learning photoshop on my own was like

Reworked the second image, used a different headshot , the whitish background was always gonna be trouble for me but happier with this .

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Old April 25 2012, 09:06 PM   #22
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some more of Terry Farrell


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Old April 27 2012, 12:11 AM   #23
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a quick Nana Visitor

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Old April 30 2012, 01:17 AM   #24
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Gates McFadden retro


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Old April 30 2012, 03:08 AM   #25
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Head's still too big.

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Old April 30 2012, 07:51 AM   #26
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Yeah, the heads are almost always too big. Time to look at a figure-drawing book or something. And the "erotic" Nazi Gates McFadden -- it's either ignorant or sick.
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Old April 30 2012, 09:17 AM   #27
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Yeah, the heads are almost always too big. Time to look at a figure-drawing book or something. And the "erotic" Nazi Gates McFadden -- it's either ignorant or sick.
tells you what you know.The head on the original bodyshot was even bigger.
But then again if you dont like them dont bother replying although you seem to like picking fault at peoples work.

As for Gates, it was based on the nazis from the original series in keeping with the retro theme , but you obviously were to thick to grasp that.
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Old April 30 2012, 09:33 AM   #28
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tells you what you know.The head on the original bodyshot was even bigger.
Doubt it. But why don't you show us the photo you ripped off and prove it to us?

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But then again if you dont like them dont bother replying although you seem to like picking fault at peoples work.
Look, I'm not the only one telling you the heads are too big. It is a common mistake most novice artists make. And I gave you a suggested solution to your problem.

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As for Gates, it was based on the nazis from the original series in keeping with the retro theme , but you obviously were to thick to grasp that.
Riiiight. Hope you enjoyed surfing for Nazi porn to make that image.
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Old April 30 2012, 09:40 AM   #29
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gazomg wrote: View Post
tells you what you know.The head on the original bodyshot was even bigger.
Doubt it. But why don't you show us the photo you ripped off and prove it to us?

gazomg wrote: View Post
But then again if you dont like them dont bother replying although you seem to like picking fault at peoples work.
Look, I'm not the only one telling you the heads are too big. It is a common mistake most novice artists make. And I gave you a suggested solution to your problem.

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As for Gates, it was based on the nazis from the original series in keeping with the retro theme , but you obviously were to thick to grasp that.
Riiiight. Hope you enjoyed surfing for Nazi porn to make that image.
Ripped off....??

you mean used....like everyone else uses trek images or are you saying you never ripped off an image ?

Secondly I have no problem with criticism, albertese who replied a few times was contructive in his replies and unlike you dont go around the board moaning just for the sake of it.
And if you want to see the original bodyshot why dont you look for it yourself.

As for Nazi porn ? You might want to get your eyes tested, where is the porn ?
The was no nudity or sex involved.

Where is your artwork since you seem to be such an expert ?
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Old April 30 2012, 02:13 PM   #30
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Hey, guys, I'm not a moderator or anything like that, but let's dial it back a bit before it comes to that...

gazomg, I think it would be constructive for us to see, for example, the unmodified original image which McFadden's head is applied to in that last image. I would be happy to help you see why the proportions are wrong, but I'd need the original image to do so.

As for the Nazi stuff, you have to realize that people are still pretty sensitive over that sort of thing. I get what you're doing there with the reference to "Patterns of Force". I'm personally not into the BDSM Nazi dominatrix thing myself, but I won't call you names for presenting that. But do be careful, as it's a fine line that could easily be crossed unintentionally and this is supposed to be a family friendly board. It's good practice to provide a clickable link to any image which someone might take as NSFW.

Anyhow, I hope that helps a bit.

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