Grant Morrison thinks Batman is gay!

stj · April 29 2012, 12:39 AM

On the one hand, it would finally explain the tights.

On the other hand, where's the glitter?

But to be trivial instead of making obvious jokes, it seems like an interesting topic for me to read others' reactions.

Here's the link: http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/ba...grant-m/266926

PS No, I did not correctly quote Mr. Morrison! This is the internet, for crissakes.

Set Harth · April 29 2012, 12:50 AM

I never understood the insinuation that Batman and Robin were gay.

I mean, you got two guys named Dick and Bruce who live together, dress in tights, and slide down a pole all day.

What's gay about that?

T'Girl · April 29 2012, 12:56 AM

He doesn't really seem to back up his assertion. I only occasional read batman comics, but the character never has seemed to me to be eithter homo- or bi-sexual. If anything Wayne comes off as almost completely celibate, his obsession with fighting crime replacing his sex drive.

My viewpoint.

scotpens · April 29 2012, 12:59 AM

Hardly an original idea. Ever hear of Dr. Frederic Wertham?

Wiki: Homosexuality in the Batman Franchise

SG-17 · April 29 2012, 01:01 AM

Didn't he date Talia for a while in the comics and Diana in the DCAU?

Hound of UIster · April 29 2012, 01:02 AM

That his entire point. His relationship with the Robins and Alfred last longer than with any women even with Talia who is Damien's mother.

SG-17 · April 29 2012, 01:08 AM

But his relationship with Alfred was that of a son and his adopted father and with Robin a father and his adopted son.

I don't see how people could think otherwise, at least in the modern age of comics.

shivkala · April 29 2012, 01:10 AM

And, as of recently, Selina Kyle, aka Catwoman. In fact, Batman Incorporated's first issue implies they have sex before heading out on a mission. At least, that's my interpretation of the scene in which Bruce is lifting weights in his underwear and Selina, also in underwear and a sportsbra (and boots!) straddles him and meows at the idea of having some free time before having to head out.

And while some might point to the more recent and overt scene from Catwoman #1, I use Batman Incorporated as an example because it was written by Grant Morrison, himself.

I chalk it up to Morrison not meaning "gay" as literal, but more figurative (though the idea of using the term "figurative" in regards to a piece of fiction boggles my mind). As was pointed out, he's not the first to suggest that some may find something sexually deviant about dressing up as a hero and fighting crime.

Admiral James Kirk · April 29 2012, 02:59 AM

I've never bought the idea of Batman being gay for even a second. On the other hand I think the Joker is flaming.

Hound of UIster · April 29 2012, 03:04 AM

SG-17 wrote:

But his relationship with Alfred was that of a son and his adopted father and with Robin a father and his adopted son.

There were five robins. Funny how the female one got kicked out barely a few weeks in.

SG-17 · April 29 2012, 03:24 AM

Hound of UIster wrote:

SG-17 wrote:

But his relationship with Alfred was that of a son and his adopted father and with Robin a father and his adopted son.

There were five robins. Funny how the female one got kicked out barely a few weeks in.

For the first three Robins that doesn't change what I said. I don't know enough about Brown to say anything, but Robin 5 is his biological son.

OdoWanKenobi · April 29 2012, 04:13 AM

Well, that explains this at least:

nightwind1 · April 29 2012, 04:35 AM

SG-17 wrote:

Didn't he date Talia for a while in the comics and Diana in the DCAU?

Not just date Talia. Damien Wayne, the current Robin, is the son of Bruce Wayne and Talia al'Ghul.

sidious618 · April 29 2012, 04:40 AM

People always concentrate on Batman and Robin being some sort of gay couple when Batman is clearly fucking Alfred.

JD · April 29 2012, 06:46 AM

Admiral James Kirk wrote:

I've never bought the idea of Batman being gay for even a second. On the other hand I think the Joker is flaming.

I could almost see the Joker being gay. Do we ever get any indication in the comics that he returns Harley's feelings? I know in most of the stories I've seen in B:TAS and the Arkham game she's obsessing over him, but he seems more interested in screwing (in a non-sexual way) with Batman and the other good guys.
As for Batman, I knew that was a joke that's been around awhile now, but I didn't realize anyone really thought that about him.

April 29 2012, 12:50 AM	#2
Set Harth Rear Admiral Location: Ekkaia	Re: Grant Morrison thinks Batman is gay! I never understood the insinuation that Batman and Robin were gay. I mean, you got two guys named Dick and Bruce who live together, dress in tights, and slide down a pole all day. What's gay about that? __________________ "Your grandfather called me a ronin. A samurai without a master. Who has no reason to live." "Was he right?"

April 29 2012, 12:56 AM	#3
T'Girl Vice Admiral	Re: Grant Morrison thinks Batman is gay! He doesn't really seem to back up his assertion. I only occasional read batman comics, but the character never has seemed to me to be eithter homo- or bi-sexual. If anything Wayne comes off as almost completely celibate, his obsession with fighting crime replacing his sex drive. My viewpoint. __________________ . The things that come to those who wait -- will be those things left behind by those who got there first.

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April 29 2012, 12:39 AM	#1
stj Rear Admiral Location: the real world	Grant Morrison thinks Batman is gay! On the one hand, it would finally explain the tights. On the other hand, where's the glitter? But to be trivial instead of making obvious jokes, it seems like an interesting topic for me to read others' reactions. Here's the link: http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/ba...grant-m/266926 PS No, I did not correctly quote Mr. Morrison! This is the internet, for crissakes. __________________ Morals are what you do to other people. Other people, what we call society, are essential to human happiness. Therefore, morals are the path to happiness. My morals, your happiness; your morals, my happiness: It's a fair trade.

April 29 2012, 01:08 AM	#7
SG-17 Commodore Location: Pennsylvania	Re: Grant Morrison thinks Batman is gay! But his relationship with Alfred was that of a son and his adopted father and with Robin a father and his adopted son. I don't see how people could think otherwise, at least in the modern age of comics. __________________ Programs that I currently enjoy: The Legend of Korra \| Falling Skies \| The Walking Dead \| Hell on Wheels \| Warehouse 13 \| Being Human \| Doctor Who \| The Borgias \| Archer \| Revolution \| Arrow

April 29 2012, 01:10 AM	#8
shivkala Rear Admiral Location: Patrolling Sector 2814	Re: Grant Morrison thinks Batman is gay! And, as of recently, Selina Kyle, aka Catwoman. In fact, Batman Incorporated's first issue implies they have sex before heading out on a mission. At least, that's my interpretation of the scene in which Bruce is lifting weights in his underwear and Selina, also in underwear and a sportsbra (and boots!) straddles him and meows at the idea of having some free time before having to head out. And while some might point to the more recent and overt scene from Catwoman #1, I use Batman Incorporated as an example because it was written by Grant Morrison, himself. I chalk it up to Morrison not meaning "gay" as literal, but more figurative (though the idea of using the term "figurative" in regards to a piece of fiction boggles my mind). As was pointed out, he's not the first to suggest that some may find something sexually deviant about dressing up as a hero and fighting crime. __________________ "When I reach for the edge of the universe, I do it knowing that along some paths of cosmic discovery, there are times when, at least for now, one must be content to love the questions themselves." --Neil deGrasse Tyson

April 29 2012, 02:59 AM	#9
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April 29 2012, 04:40 AM	#14
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