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Old April 28 2012, 08:27 AM   #16
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Re: TOS: The Red Ensign by DRGIII - January 2013

I hope it's about a minor character.
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Old April 28 2012, 02:23 PM   #17
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Re: TOS: The Red Ensign by DRGIII - January 2013

I take it there is no book description as of yet?
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Old April 28 2012, 05:48 PM   #18
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As far as i know.
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Old April 28 2012, 06:55 PM   #19
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Re: TOS: The Red Ensign by DRGIII - January 2013

I'm sure the pun inherent in the title is intentional. It's probably not about redshirt security guards, that's just a hook to lure in the reader (how many people even know that the word 'ensign' can also refer to a flag?). And it seems to be working.
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Old April 28 2012, 07:06 PM   #20
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Re: TOS: The Red Ensign by DRGIII - January 2013

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I'm sure the pun inherent in the title is intentional. It's probably not about redshirt security guards, that's just a hook to lure in the reader (how many people even know that the word 'ensign' can also refer to a flag?). And it seems to be working.
Outside of America, quite a few. However, Trek is an American series so the majority of it's fans probably don't.
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Old April 28 2012, 07:10 PM   #21
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Re: TOS: The Red Ensign by DRGIII - January 2013

Although, the use of 'ensign' as a rank is a direct result OF its use as a flag, isn't it? Meaning: the word was originally used simply to describe the junior officer in a unit who carried the flag into battle. And was originally an Army rank, not Navy.
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Old April 28 2012, 07:10 PM   #22
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On the other hand, there was no pun intended in the TNG episode title "The Ensigns of Command." Maybe, like the writer of that episode, David is simply trusting in the literacy of his audience.
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Old April 28 2012, 07:15 PM   #23
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I hope it features Sam Lavelle. The character has some potential.
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Old April 28 2012, 07:32 PM   #24
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On the other hand, there was no pun intended in the TNG episode title "The Ensigns of Command."
Are you saying that was supposed to be a flag reference? I always thought it was a pun regarding Data - even though he is a senior officer, a LTCDR, he hasn't had an extended mission on his own where he was in command, so in that regard, he's as green as any ensign.
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Old April 28 2012, 08:27 PM   #25
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I want the seals of power and place,
The ensigns of command,
Charged by the people's unbought grace,
To rule my native land.
Nor crown nor sceptre would I ask,
But from my country's will,
By day, by night, to ply the task
Her cup of bliss to fill.

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Old April 28 2012, 10:14 PM   #26
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Ensign doesn't just mean a flag, it means a symbol, an insignia (you can see how the words are related to each other and to "sign"). The ensigns of command are the symbols of authority -- "the seals of power and place" like crowns and sceptres. The episode "The Ensigns of Command" was about Data proving his authority, earning the colonists' respect, and the title referred to that symbolically.


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I hope it features Sam Lavelle. The character has some potential.
Uhh... in an original series novel?
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Old April 28 2012, 10:31 PM   #27
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What, Trek doesn't have time travel?
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Old April 28 2012, 10:51 PM   #28
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Yevetha wrote: View Post
I hope it features Sam Lavelle. The character has some potential.
Uhh... in an original series novel? [/QUOTE]


I forgot the setting. Nevertheless he should have his own novel or series.
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Old April 29 2012, 06:38 PM   #29
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Maybe it will be like that Austin Powers movie where we get to see that the henchman Powers kills has a life and family.
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Old April 29 2012, 06:42 PM   #30
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All I know is, I keep getting this image of a Constitution-class starship flying the British Red Ensign and then claiming this land in the name of the King.
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