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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
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A 102 31.78%
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B 11 3.43%
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Old April 25 2012, 07:26 AM   #91
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Fuck, that was AWESOME! My childhood being realized after 25 fucking years!
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Old April 25 2012, 08:16 AM   #92
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It's still up and it was awesome!

If the rest of the movie lives up to the stinger, then this movie is going to be EPIC!

Of course, I never actually thought that I'd see...



...in a major motion picture, simply because I never thought that the character would work on the big screen, but that short sequence was chilling.
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Old April 25 2012, 09:56 AM   #93
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Okay I'm checking out of this thread until I see the movie, I was way too tempted to click on that link!
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Old April 25 2012, 11:36 AM   #94
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^NO! No no! Not looking at that! I'm waiting a week and half to see it and be surprised on the big screen. I am NOT looking at that!
Very wise. And it was very cool on the big screen.

Anyways, I got back from seeing it around a few hours ago. Just awesome. Most likely will seen it again sometime soon.

A review from The Vine. 5 out of 5
Joss Whedon, the occasionally surly genius behind Buffy, Angel, Firefly and to a lesser degree, Dollhouse, has done it. He's created an ensemble superhero film that actually works.

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Old April 25 2012, 05:06 PM   #95
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You know, hearing about how incredibly epic and witty and entertaining Whedon's movie is gonna be, I can't help but wonder how the upcoming Iron Man, Cap, and Thor sequels are going to possibly measure up now.

No matter how well done, they won't help but seem a bit underwhelming coming after something so massive and fun as a team-up movie. It's just gonna be one guy fighting a supervillain again, with writing that probably won't be half as fun as before.

Maybe Marvel should get Whedon to punch up the dialogue to at least keep some kind of consistency.
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Old April 25 2012, 07:14 PM   #96
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I have faith in Shane Black I have a feeling that I'll be seeing "Avengers" multiple times.
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Old April 25 2012, 07:34 PM   #97
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Hearing the good vibes from fellow board members has my already high anticipations at the boiling point. Thanks for putting the end credits in spoiler tags guys but I am going to resist watching so I can be equally ecstatic as you guys seem to be about the sequence.

I hear that there is nothing actually at the END of the credits, right?
That this sequence is about a minute or so into the credits reel, correct?
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Old April 25 2012, 08:46 PM   #98
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You know, hearing about how incredibly epic and witty and entertaining Whedon's movie is gonna be, I can't help but wonder how the upcoming Iron Man, Cap, and Thor sequels are going to possibly measure up now.

No matter how well done, they won't help but seem a bit underwhelming coming after something so massive and fun as a team-up movie. It's just gonna be one guy fighting a supervillain again, with writing that probably won't be half as fun as before.

Maybe Marvel should get Whedon to punch up the dialogue to at least keep some kind of consistency.
Hard to have consistency as it is when you're dealing with five to seven different characters each appearing in very different movies with very different tones done by different directors. That Whedon was able to compile them all together in a movie that made any sense whatsoever is a feat inofitself.
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Old April 25 2012, 09:08 PM   #99
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Hard to have consistency as it is when you're dealing with five to seven different characters each appearing in very different movies with very different tones done by different directors. That Whedon was able to compile them all together in a movie that made any sense whatsoever is a feat inofitself.
True, but I was just talking about the general entertainment level. There will probably be a lot of critics who measure the Thor and Cap sequels up against the high standard set by Whedon's Avengers.
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Old April 25 2012, 09:33 PM   #100
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Might be repost, from hitfix:

[FONT=Verdana, Arial][SIZE=2]Short version: it's tremendous entertainment, confident and complete in a way that none of the Marvel movies so far have been, and I say that as someone who likes the Marvel movies in general. The company makes an incremental leap forward with this movie, and they've set the bar fairly high for themselves in the future. I am pleased and impressed and feel like this more than pays off any emotional investment I made in the movies as they were being released. [/SIZE][/FONT]
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-c...l-movie-so-far

needless to say my expectation continues to grow
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Old April 25 2012, 09:54 PM   #101
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I played the first few seconds just to see if it was legit and not some prank...then quickly stopped it.
Heh, why do you care if you don't want to be spoiled Matter of fact, I'd think you would prefer the comfort of not knowing it was legit, in case someone blurts something out you don't want to know. I'm not looking, NOPE!!!!
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Old April 25 2012, 10:08 PM   #102
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As a Hulk fan I'm enjoying all the pro-Hulk chatter by those who've seen the film already. Seems a sequel to Incredible Hulk isn't outside the realm of happening...just not till after an Avengers 2 it seems.
FEIGE: "In between the many red carpets and interviews over the last few days Mark and I say what is a standalone Hulk movie? How do we take all this goodwill, all this forward momentum from Avengers into a solo Hulk movie? When that will be, who knows? The conversations have definitely started."

That could mean 2015/16, also good timing for another soft-reboot cause thats 6-7 years post Norton film.
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Old April 25 2012, 10:17 PM   #103
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I played the first few seconds just to see if it was legit and not some prank...then quickly stopped it.
Heh, why do you care if you don't want to be spoiled Matter of fact, I'd think you would prefer the comfort of not knowing it was legit, in case someone blurts something out you don't want to know. I'm not looking, NOPE!!!!
Sadly, I've already been accidentally spoiled as to who is appearing in the post-credits scene. But that doesn't mean I want to see exactly how the scene plays out.

Plus I got curious.
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Old April 25 2012, 11:47 PM   #104
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Omigod! I saw it twice today and it's still awesome!
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Old April 26 2012, 01:52 AM   #105
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In anticipation of "The Avengers" due out here the first weekend in May I've watched the lead-up movies to it over the course of the last couple of week to re-familiarize myself with these characters and the movies they come from.

The project for "Marvel's The Avengers" is probably one of the more ambitious ones undertaken by a movie studio(s) in decades if not THE most ambitious undertaking. Over the last four years Marvel Studios has taken some of the biggest names in their franchise -that they have the power to make movies for-, given them a movie with the hopes of culminating the characters into a big "event movie" of the superhero squad "The Avengers." This would prove to be something of a challenge given that their more popular heroes' movie rites were owned by other studios. If the early word is any indication this is a gamble where Marvel bet it all on 00, spun the wheel and won.

It all -mostly begins with:

Iron Man: When this movie came out I was very dubious. Iron Man -as far as I was concerned- was one of Marvel's "B-List" superheroes, not one who was too popularly known outside of comic-book circles and not being a Marvel fan I wasn't too familiar with him either. So I went into this with skepticism further compounded by Robert Downey Jr's reputation up to that point. The movie blew me away, not only did RDJ come-off perfectly cast as an egomaniac billionaire but the chemistry between him and Pepper Pots was just great. This was a movie that really helped to define the tone and intent of the Marvel movies. It's weakest point is probably in a villain but most of the movie focuses on setting up Stark and Iron Man and showing him to be genius industrialist billionaire he is. An A- movie.

The Incredible Hulk: Something of a soft-reboot to Ang Lee's pretentious "Hulk" from a few years earlier. This movie dropped the notion of trying to be too deep, or cerebral and just brought the Hulk to the screen in the way he probably originally should have been. The movie still has some weak moments -mostly in a female lead- but overall I think it's because it's hard to make the traditional notion of Hulk an interesting and compelling character. When Banner "Hulks Out" he's just pure unchained rampage and not too much more (that is until he gains some control over it.) It's not a whole lot to work with but this effort comes out a touch better than the earlier one and better fits with the "Marvel Movie Universe" that was being established at the time. B-

Iron Man 2: Iron Man's unbridled success earned him the only Marvel Studio superhero to get a sequel before The Avengers. Unfortuantely the usually brilliant director Jon Favreau seemed to have his hands tied in this one by trying to begin the "official" setup for The Avengers, so that's what this movie brings us (the other movies just had teases in post-credit sequences.) At times this movies comes across as more of "The Avengers" prequel than it does an Iron Man sequel. Granted it spends a lot of time on Tony's/Iron Man's acceptance into the superhero squad but it's still there. RDJ still saves as does the chemistry between him and GP, but the movie still has a bit of that weight to it. It also is dragged down by a recasting of a character sort of altering the tone between the two characters. The movie also treats the subject of Tony's alcoholism and suffering from poisoning from the metal in the device keeping him alive a bit too lightly. (And even for a comic book movie, I thought him making a cyclotron, powering it, and creating a "new element", in his basement was a bit of a stretch. The movie also introduces us to another Marvel "superhero" with the Black Widow an elite government assassin who can kick ass and give you a boner while doing it. On more viewings I like this movie more than I originally did but I think elements of it could've been handled better. (Again, Tony's alcoholism issues could've been a touch-less slapsticky.) B

Thor: Thor -as a character- was a hard one for me to get into. Given everything comic books presents us with it was a bit difficult to make Norse mythology jive with a comic book world mostly grounded in a ounce or two of the real one. If Thor was a child all of this time, how is he known about -as adult god/demigod- in Earth mythology? Thor et.al. speaks of the "nine realms" which seem to be planets... There are only nine habitable planets in the Marvel Universe? Again, this may all come from me not being a big Marvel (or Thor) fan but it was hard for my logic-mind to comprehend. None-the-less the movie presented the character well and established his origins and such pretty well too. The movie, I think, suffers from Thor's being banished to Earth for his brashness, dealing with being human/mortal, and his redemption and learning of humility to gain his powers back a bit too quickly. Thor seems to change his entire personality to the satisfaction of his father over the course of a couple of days. The movie also lacks a bit in that the "threat" isn't necessarily one to Earth but to an alien race, an evil one at that. But, it was enjoyable in the long run if not for Chris Hemsworth's performance but for Natalie Portman's. A-

Captain America: A character I'd always written off as not much more than a relic of America's version of World War II propaganda that'd been forced into modern times. Frankly, I found him goofy. He throws a shield, he punches Hitler, what else does he do? The movie takes the character and builds a lot more character and background into him than had probably been spent on the other heroes. Set entirely during World War II the movie stays true to the origins of the character -even playing homage to his original purpose in the real world- while also doing the story of how Captain America is brought into modern day. The movie has warmth to it in CA's love interest and a fairly compelling villain. Between Thor and Captain America I'd say CA is the better of the Marvel movies that came out last year. Only Just. A-.

It's been a long road but it's finally here either this weekend for some or next weekend of the rest of us. A movie that has to balance a handful of interesting characters that've been building up for the last four-five years all played by good actors and even with a small cache of secondary characters to make it even more interesting. I suspect this will all pay off, big-time, for Marvel in the end. Getting here has been a fun and enlightening ride as it made me interested in and fans of a handful of superhero characters I never gave much thought to.
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