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Old April 18 2012, 01:36 PM   #2341
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Well I didn't win the joke competition .

It also doesn't look like there's a midnight showing at my cinema.
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Old April 18 2012, 07:12 PM   #2342
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The new Thor vs Iron Man clip was pretty cool.

Although once again I have to wonder how Tony can survive being knocked around like that. It's not like there's a whole lot of cushioning in that suit.
I figure it's got to be a byproduct of the new element instead of the palladium and maybe coupled with the shards.

I mean, surely medical tech can remove the shards in universe, so keeping the power supply in your chest must have other benefits.
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Old April 18 2012, 07:43 PM   #2343
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The new Thor vs Iron Man clip was pretty cool.

Although once again I have to wonder how Tony can survive being knocked around like that. It's not like there's a whole lot of cushioning in that suit.
Inertial dampening is sometimes credited with this. Presumably this explanation was cribbed from Star Trek.
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Old April 19 2012, 01:05 AM   #2344
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Keep in mind how Tony crashed in the Iron Man suit prototype he built in the cave and he survived a pretty severe crash inside of it. He also survived numerous -unprotected- crashes testing out various elements of the Mark I suit/the "real one."

We're dealing with comic-book physics here. Tony was also able to produce a brand-new, highly-powerful element in his basement!

So, yeah, I'd say he just "somehow" survives the impacts while in the suit.
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Old April 19 2012, 01:47 AM   #2345
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I saw Avengers at a media preview last night. Quite the publicity show.

There were chaps dressed in S.H.I.E.L.D uniforms, with red electronic truncheons, glowing lights, a blast door, and a mix of Hulk green and dark cocktails (alongside champagne, and red and white wine). The 3D glasses came in Hulk, Iron-Man, Thor and other varieties. (My Thor glasses were very Dame Edna Everage.)

The film's embargoed until 20th, so I can't talk about the details until then.

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Here's the 'best' of the jokes Empire received on Twitter. The first two were the winners. Bit disappointed none of mine made the cut.

My favourite two were probably -

What's the Hulk's favourite meal?

Banners and Smash

Why did Tony Stark get aroused at the dinner table?

He has a thing for Pepper Potts.
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i love the one about Nick Fury's depth perception.
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I saw Avengers at a media preview last night. Quite the publicity show.

There were chaps dressed in S.H.I.E.L.D uniforms, with red electronic truncheons, glowing lights, a blast door, and a mix of Hulk green and dark cocktails (alongside champagne, and red and white wine). The 3D glasses came in Hulk, Iron-Man, Thor and other varieties. (My Thor glasses were very Dame Edna Everage.)

The film's embargoed until 20th, so I can't talk about the details until then.

I have begun the GRADE, REVIEWS, DISCUSS thread for The Avengers knowing this would be the case. I hope you'll post your review there tomorrow!!
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Old April 20 2012, 08:13 AM   #2350
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I saw Avengers at a media preview last night. Quite the publicity show.

There were chaps dressed in S.H.I.E.L.D uniforms, with red electronic truncheons, glowing lights, a blast door, and a mix of Hulk green and dark cocktails (alongside champagne, and red and white wine). The 3D glasses came in Hulk, Iron-Man, Thor and other varieties. (My Thor glasses were very Dame Edna Everage.)

The film's embargoed until 20th, so I can't talk about the details until then.

I have begun the GRADE, REVIEWS, DISCUSS thread for The Avengers knowing this would be the case. I hope you'll post your review there tomorrow!!
I might write something for my blog. If so, I'll link to it here.

In the meantime, I'll link to a review by a friend of mine. (If that's OK. The embargo's finished here.)
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It's also interesting how Thor's lightning "overcharges" the suit... If the suit only has x-power capacity that's it. "Overcharging it" would cause the suit to blow up (electrically) not somehow find a place to put all of that extra energy?
Well, I would note that:

1) engineers are "always a wee bit conservative, at least on paper". They build more capacity into any system than they strictly need, just in case.

2)The storage capacity of a power cell can be said to be "X", and "overcharging" the cell might damage it but in general it's not going to just go "poof" the microsecond it goes a tenth of a percent over that limit (unless you are talking about the physical tolerances of the materials it's constructed of, in which case see my first point).
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Old April 20 2012, 08:27 AM   #2352
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The new Thor vs Iron Man clip was pretty cool.

Although once again I have to wonder how Tony can survive being knocked around like that. It's not like there's a whole lot of cushioning in that suit.
It's a Hollywood summer movie based on a comicbook. Little suspension of disbelief, please.
To be fair, there have been times in the comic that Tony is pretty injured in the suit...taking off his helmet and spitting up blood, and having collapsed lungs and broken ribs and stuff like that.
I'm also reminded of the famous confrontation between the 616 Tony (aka the Iron Facist) and Thor over the creation of "Clor"

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2631834.html

The film Thor may or may not be fighting at full power.
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Old April 20 2012, 11:44 AM   #2353
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It's also interesting how Thor's lightning "overcharges" the suit... If the suit only has x-power capacity that's it. "Overcharging it" would cause the suit to blow up (electrically) not somehow find a place to put all of that extra energy?
Well, I would note that:

1) engineers are "always a wee bit conservative, at least on paper". They build more capacity into any system than they strictly need, just in case.

2)The storage capacity of a power cell can be said to be "X", and "overcharging" the cell might damage it but in general it's not going to just go "poof" the microsecond it goes a tenth of a percent over that limit (unless you are talking about the physical tolerances of the materials it's constructed of, in which case see my first point).
What if it it's a few times over the limit? Are engineers that conservative on paper?

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Ian Keldon wrote: View Post
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It's a Hollywood summer movie based on a comicbook. Little suspension of disbelief, please.
To be fair, there have been times in the comic that Tony is pretty injured in the suit...taking off his helmet and spitting up blood, and having collapsed lungs and broken ribs and stuff like that.
I'm also reminded of the famous confrontation between the 616 Tony (aka the Iron Facist) and Thor over the creation of "Clor"

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2631834.html

The film Thor may or may not be fighting at full power.
Thor was not being 100% truthful in that scene. He also possessed the Odinpower then. His own power levels were through the roof. That's why Iron Man couldn't do a damn thing to him, and his strikes were devasting.

Without the Odinforce, Thor is about 50% more powerful than Iron Man. With it he's at least 150% more powerful. It makes a big difference.
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What if it it's a few times over the limit? Are engineers that conservative on paper?

We don't know what the "limit" is though. We don't know how much energy Tony's reactor produces. I don't know enough engineering or physics to sit down and do an "energy budget" for all the armor's capabilities.

We're also talking about a world where, among other things, man can create a literally unbreakable metal, anti-gravity, unstable molecules, hand-held energy weapons, etc.

If you want to dismiss it as "handwavium", go ahead. All I'm pointing out is that within the context of the MU (even the movie universe), "super science" is a lot less "super" and a lot more "common" than ours.
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