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View Poll Results: Rate Forgotten History.
Outstanding 56 51.38%
Above Average 39 35.78%
Average 9 8.26%
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Old April 18 2012, 11:30 PM   #46
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I'll join the chorus and state that Forgotten History is among the Trek books I'm most anticipating this year. I am also very excited about the time frame selected for this novel as well. Christopher has stated he'd like to maybe move on to something else after this one but I still uphold my suggestion from the Watching the Clock thread that I would seriously LOVE LOVE LOVE an Uptime book starring Jenna Noi. As much as I liked Garica and the other characters, and obviously our two stars, I fell in love with Jenna Noi as a character. One of the best characters I think Chris has handled as a writer. So fascinating and I loved her banter with the DTI gang. So yeah I know I'll be holding out for the possibility of an Uptime book still
Oh yeah, I'll second this one.

It would be neat and quite difficult I'd imagine to do a Trek book from the Uptime perspective. but I'd love it.
Me too.
I can't see it working as anything other than a Myriad Universes adventure, due to the ever-changing futures we've seen in Trek over the years. IIRC, in "Watching the Clock", there was doubt as to whether the 29th century and 31st century time cops represented different points along the same future, or two divergent ones.
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Old April 19 2012, 01:14 AM   #47
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I read the sample chapters of Forgotten History I plan on buying this book. I want to find out how Kirk and his crews play a role in this novel and the DTI agents as well.
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Old April 19 2012, 01:36 AM   #48
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I wonder how many pages this thread will get up to before the book is actually released and what the amount of conversation says about the amount of anticipation for it.
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Old April 19 2012, 02:07 AM   #49
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^Well, rfmcdpei already said he's read it, so I'd say not quite two pages.
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Old April 19 2012, 04:08 AM   #50
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^Well, rfmcdpei already said he's read it, so I'd say not quite two pages.
Keep in mind I read quite quickly--I got the book today. (Working at a bookstore has its charms.)

First reaction? Silly as it sounds, I should watch TAS.
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Old April 19 2012, 07:48 AM   #51
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@King Daniel yet Jenna still continued to interact with the DTI agents of downtime. I'm positive that if Christopher came up with an idea or plot for an uptime book it would work as a novel length story, I'd take a short story though as well
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Old April 19 2012, 08:55 AM   #52
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When will the annotations be up?
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Old April 19 2012, 12:44 PM   #53
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First reaction? Silly as it sounds, I should watch TAS.
I'm not sure whether you're saying you think your reaction would sound silly to us or that TAS sounds silly to you. If it's the latter, I'd say that TAS's silly ratio isn't substantially worse than that of TOS itself.


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When will the annotations be up?
I'm not sure how soon I'll be able to get around to them. Plus I like to hold off a bit, give people a chance to read and form their own reactions before I post spoiler notes.
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Old April 19 2012, 09:05 PM   #54
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The excerpt was huge.
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Old April 19 2012, 11:16 PM   #55
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I'm not sure whether you're saying you think your reaction would sound silly to us or that TAS sounds silly to you. If it's the latter, I'd say that TAS's silly ratio isn't substantially worse than that of TOS itself.
My reaction was the former. I've read quite a bit of Trek literature, and I've watched all five of the different live series, all four save Enterprise in their entirety. I haven't watched TAS before, though. I don't know why I haven't done it before.I should. One reason is because elements of TAS (excluding "Yesteryear") have made it into Trek TV canon, never mind Trek literature. Without providing spoilers, I can say that Forgotten History is the recent Trek novel that has the greatest amount of content derived from TAS. Watching TAS would provide some more background.
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Old April 19 2012, 11:41 PM   #56
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My reaction was the former. I've read quite a bit of Trek literature, and I've watched all five of the different live series, all four save Enterprise in their entirety. I haven't watched TAS before, though. I don't know why I haven't done it before.I should.
Well, then, I've achieved what I was kind of trying to do. I think TAS is an underappreciated series, and since we're past the era when the studio licensing department expected us to tiptoe around TAS, I decided it was time to embrace it. (Although a large part of what motivated me was that I'd re-read Alan Dean Foster's Star Trek Log series shortly before I got the gig, so it was fresh in my mind.)


One reason is because elements of TAS (excluding "Yesteryear") have made it into Trek TV canon, never mind Trek literature.
It sounds to me like you meant to say few elements other than "Yesteryear" have made it in. There have been some subtle references in canon to things other than "Yesteryear." There is of course Kirk's middle name Tiberius, first established in TAS (as was Amanda's surname Grayson). The name of Kor's ship in "The Time Trap," Klothos, was made canonical in DS9. There have been several onscreen references to Edosian orchids or animals, based on Edos, Mr. Arex's homeworld according to behind-the-scenes material. And the felinoids in the UFP council chamber in ST IV were implicitly supposed to be Caitians (I gather). Also, Star Trek Remastered used the design of the cargo drones from "More Tribbles, More Troubles" as the basis for the Antares in "Charlie X" and the Woden in "The Ultimate Computer" as well as a background ship in "Court-martial."

Without providing spoilers, I can say that Forgotten History is the recent Trek novel that has the greatest amount of content derived from TAS.
Probably. That Which Divides makes significant use of Arex and M'Ress, but I cast a rather wider net than that. And those two aren't in FH, so the two books kind of complement each other TAS-reference-wise.
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Old April 20 2012, 12:59 AM   #57
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I've never watched TAS ...
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Old April 20 2012, 01:38 AM   #58
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I've never watched TAS ...
The entire series is available for streaming on both StarTrek.com (for free) and Netflix (with a membership). At least it is in the US; I don't know about overseas. The whole series totals under 9 hours running time, so it doesn't require a huge investment of time.
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Old April 20 2012, 02:00 AM   #59
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StarTrek.com sadly doesn't stream to Germany, and Netflix isn't available at all.

I'm actually somewhat curious as to why I've never watched it, though. After all, I've seen every other episode in the franchise at least three times (and that's definitely the low-low-lower bound ...). Maybe it never aired in Germany while I was growing up? Though that doesn't explain why I never sought it out later ...

Ah well, maybe Forgotten History is the kick in the butt I needed. To stay on topic: Since Watching the Clock is the only 2011 release I read in 2011 (because I'm so far behind everyone in all the series, and the description made it seem fairly stand-alone initially) I'm really looking forward to reading this one, since it's likely to be also the only 2012 release I read in 2012. Basically, DTI is my lifeline to the TrekLit frontier right now.
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Old April 20 2012, 03:40 AM   #60
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I'd be interested to see how Christopher could re-work the time flowing backwards, black stars on white space of The Counter Clock Incident. I would imagine the idea of the physics involved would drive the DTI science department mad. If I'm remembering TAS correctly this is the only episode to touch on any sort of time travel except for Yesteryear.
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