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Old April 19 2012, 01:29 PM   #2251
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i Think Terrence Howard would make the best Ben Zoma:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm490778624/tt0485985
Zoma:
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Old April 19 2012, 01:51 PM   #2252
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I don't think Terrence Howard would make the best anything.
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Old April 19 2012, 01:57 PM   #2253
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^He'll be replaced by Don Cheadle for the sequel anyway.
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Old April 19 2012, 06:56 PM   #2254
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^rofl
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Old April 19 2012, 07:03 PM   #2255
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My mental picture of Quinn is John C. Reilly, btw. (I'm sure completely inaccurately again.)
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Old April 19 2012, 08:23 PM   #2256
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Has anybody ever come up with someone for Jasminder Choudhury? She's one of the few characters I don't have anyone picked for in my cast lists I put together.
I always envisioned Agam Darshi for the role.

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Old April 19 2012, 10:24 PM   #2257
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Or, based on the picture: a younger Billy Dee Williams.
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Old April 19 2012, 10:41 PM   #2258
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Despite the colorist's odd choice, it's clear to me that the way artist Deryl Skelton drew ben Zoma's features in that issue is not consistent with a "black" ethnicity. His hair is straight (or slightly wavy) rather than tightly curled, which is kind of a dead giveaway. And his features look more Middle Eastern or Mediterranean to me. Maybe the idea was for him to be of Arab ethnicity, to have a skin tone similar to Julian Bashir's. But back then, comic-book color palettes were more limited and some attempts to represent ethnicities other than "white" or "black" could be awkward. (There are some DC TOS comics from just a few years earlier where Sulu's skin is a rather garish shade of orange.)
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Old April 19 2012, 10:58 PM   #2259
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Despite the colorist's odd choice, it's clear to me that the way artist Deryl Skelton drew ben Zoma's features in that issue is not consistent with a "black" ethnicity. His hair is straight (or slightly wavy) rather than tightly curled, which is kind of a dead giveaway.
Well, you can't marginalize or generalize all black men.

Some of us black men do wear our hair "wavy" as a style. The aforementioned, Billy Dee Williams still does to this day, as do other black male actors. Not too mention the mixed-race black individuals (be they half-Asian, half-Caucasian, half-Latino, etc.) who will gain certain features from both parents.
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Old April 19 2012, 11:25 PM   #2260
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Well, you can't marginalize or generalize all black men.
What? I'm not trying to do anything of the sort -- it's a ridiculous and insulting suggestion. I'm just saying that his features -- and I did include his facial structure in the discussion, not just his hair -- did not look "black" to me, but rather Middle Eastern or Mediterranean. I think that too many Americans are brought up to see ethnicity purely in "black-and-white" terms and fail to realize that there are a lot of ethnic groups on this planet that have brown skin. I'm arguing against marginalization -- the marginalization of ethnic groups other than the ones that Americans perceive as "white" and "black."
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Old April 20 2012, 12:16 AM   #2261
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Despite the colorist's odd choice, it's clear to me that the way artist Deryl Skelton drew ben Zoma's features in that issue is not consistent with a "black" ethnicity. His hair is straight (or slightly wavy) rather than tightly curled, which is kind of a dead giveaway.
Well, you can't marginalize or generalize all black men.

Some of us black men do wear our hair "wavy" as a style. The aforementioned, Billy Dee Williams still does to this day, as do other black male actors. Not too mention the mixed-race black individuals (be they half-Asian, half-Caucasian, half-Latino, etc.) who will gain certain features from both parents.
It's fair to note that not all black men have tightly curled hair, but it's completely unfair to Christopher to accuse him of trying to marginalize anyone. He's having a difference of opinion about what the creative intent was in the depiction of a character, not trying to perpetuate the oppression of African Americans.
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Old April 20 2012, 01:54 AM   #2262
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I don't think Terrence Howard would make the best anything.
He was pretty good on Law & Order: LA.
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Old April 20 2012, 02:04 AM   #2263
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I don't think Terrence Howard would make the best anything.
He was pretty good on Law & Order: LA.
I didn't think so. Not actively bad, perhaps, just kind of meh. IMHO.
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Old April 20 2012, 03:49 AM   #2264
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I kept imagining Howard as Sam Bowers in Destiny for some reason.
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Old April 23 2012, 03:51 AM   #2265
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I like Roger Cross for Bowers myself, but I could see Terrence Howard as a pretty good runner up. I liked him in the first Iron Man.
What do you guys think of Tzi Ma for Admr. Nogura?
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