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View Poll Results: Rate Storming Heaven.
Outstanding 58 69.05%
Above Average 23 27.38%
Average 2 2.38%
Below Average 0 0%
Poor 1 1.19%
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Old April 16 2012, 02:13 PM   #136
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Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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Lightning does however strike twice in the same location, regardless of the so-called axiom.
In fact, any "single" lightning strike is actually multiple strokes in quick succession, following the same path of ionized air, hence the strobing effect.

However, "catching lightning in a bottle" is a different metaphor, suggesting the successful capture of something that's all but impossibly elusive.
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Old April 16 2012, 02:22 PM   #137
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I voted Outstanding...as much an opinion for this novel as for the whole series. It's been as exciting as any Trek in two decades IMHO.

I finished it up in a flash this past weekend and I had two quick questions, they may be a bit spoilerish so here goes:


and



Congrats to you, David, on a fully realized tale. I know you are proud of it and you should be. I'm glad to have had the chance to experience the series. Thank you.
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Old April 16 2012, 03:57 PM   #138
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Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!)

I'm sure we haven't heard the last of some Vanguard characters.
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Old April 16 2012, 05:00 PM   #139
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Christopher wrote: View Post
BrotherBenny wrote: View Post
Lightning does however strike twice in the same location, regardless of the so-called axiom.
In fact, any "single" lightning strike is actually multiple strokes in quick succession, following the same path of ionized air, hence the strobing effect.

However, "catching lightning in a bottle" is a different metaphor, suggesting the successful capture of something that's all but impossibly elusive.
I have to ask; why do you feel the need to point out the transparently obvious?
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Old April 16 2012, 05:37 PM   #140
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I voted Outstanding...as much an opinion for this novel as for the whole series. It's been as exciting as any Trek in two decades IMHO.
Thank you, very kind. And glad you enjoyed the finale.

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I finished it up in a flash this past weekend and I had two quick questions, they may be a bit spoilerish so here goes:

No, actually the text implied no such thing. Re-read their last scene together — it says explicitly that...



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Indeed. That was exactly our intention.

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Congrats to you, David, on a fully realized tale. I know you are proud of it and you should be. I'm glad to have had the chance to experience the series. Thank you.
You're more than welcome. The pleasure was mine.
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Old April 16 2012, 07:30 PM   #141
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No, actually the text implied no such thing. Re-read their last scene together — it says explicitly that...
In light of a later scene with Pennington and T'Prynn (where Tim goes round and round the station to look for him and she tells him he's gone), that bit of text should perhaps have been moved to the end of that conversation.
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Old April 16 2012, 07:32 PM   #142
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Not quite finished, but, how many energy feeds were there to the array of artifacts? Also, how much of the stations power did it consume?
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Old April 16 2012, 07:40 PM   #143
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No, actually the text implied no such thing. Re-read their last scene together — it says explicitly that...
In light of a later scene with Pennington and T'Prynn (where Tim goes round and round the station to look for him and she tells him he's gone), that bit of text should perhaps have been moved to the end of that conversation.
To me, this doesn't mean the 2 friends never saw each other again. Perhaps Pennington met him again decades later, but under his new identity. That quote seems a little open ended.

One of the things I've loved about this series is how often I've been led to believe the fate of certain characters or situations only to find I'd been misled for the sake of a later surprise.
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Old April 16 2012, 07:42 PM   #144
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Not quite finished, but, how many energy feeds were there to the array of artifacts? Also, how much of the stations power did it consume?
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Old April 16 2012, 07:49 PM   #145
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No, actually the text implied no such thing. Re-read their last scene together — it says explicitly that...
In light of a later scene with Pennington and T'Prynn (where Tim goes round and round the station to look for him and she tells him he's gone), that bit of text should perhaps have been moved to the end of that conversation.
To me, this doesn't mean the 2 friends never saw each other again. Perhaps Pennington met him again decades later, but under his new identity. That quote seems a little open ended.
No, that's pretty definitively. The author himself says so in the post your quoted.
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Old April 16 2012, 08:50 PM   #146
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In light of a later scene with Pennington and T'Prynn (where Tim goes round and round the station to look for him and she tells him he's gone), that bit of text should perhaps have been moved to the end of that conversation.
No, that would not have worked — and please don't "Monday Morning Quarterback" me.
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Old April 16 2012, 08:55 PM   #147
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In light of a later scene with Pennington and T'Prynn (where Tim goes round and round the station to look for him and she tells him he's gone), that bit of text should perhaps have been moved to the end of that conversation.
No, that would not have worked — and please don't "Monday Morning Quarterback" me.
... still a good book.
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Old April 19 2012, 06:49 AM   #148
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Just finished it earlier tonight. I'm very glad the series got a chance to get such a proper ending. I feel everything I could say has been said many times over already, so I'll just say this: Bravo, sir. Well done.
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Old April 20 2012, 10:13 AM   #149
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For those of you not following the other threar, Dave's Trek Radio interview is now on demand. Here is a link: http://www.trekradio.net/on-demand

Enjoy
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Old April 22 2012, 09:56 PM   #150
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As usual I'm late to the party.Apologies.
Excellent finale to an excellent series.Guys,I don't know how you would do it but we really need another mini-series set in a "scuffed-up"Trek universe.Perhaps a "Hell on wheels"type scenario on a new colony near the Klingon border.

Did anyone else get the impression that Carol Marcus and her team were now "under house arrest"by Starfleet?Were they still considered as security threats even after the Vanguard project folded it's tents?Was the Genesis project just a gilded cage?

And that creepy SI admiral with his termination order?I have often complained that the SI of the TNG era are a joke but this guy was seriously old-school.
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