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Old April 16 2012, 12:41 AM   #31
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....dress in a sexually provocative manner..... expressions of overt physical sexuality .....display her body .....

I think you need to get out more.
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Old April 16 2012, 12:44 AM   #32
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Its all about the boobies.


While not as well endowed as Jolene or Jeri, Suzie's hills and valley are still noticeable in a standard Starfleet uniform. Work it vixen.

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Old April 16 2012, 12:44 AM   #33
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It literally lifts and separates each boob, and clings to every crevice of her hips and buttocks.
You seem to have made a study of this.
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Old April 16 2012, 12:49 AM   #34
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....dress in a sexually provocative manner..... expressions of overt physical sexuality .....display her body .....

I think you need to get out more.

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It literally lifts and separates each boob, and clings to every crevice of her hips and buttocks.
You seem to have made a study of this.
Happy to see that you two have nothing to say other than to insult me for disagreeing with the costuming choices for these characters.
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Old April 16 2012, 12:57 AM   #35
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I'm not insulting you, I'm just picturing you watching VOY. Studying.

Really the catsuits could have done with nipples. Do you think they taped them? Or maybe it was just so hot on the set under the lights this was never an issue.
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Old April 16 2012, 12:57 AM   #36
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Its all about the boobies.


While not as well endowed as Jolene or Jeri, Suzie's hills and valley are still noticeable in a standard Starfleet uniform. Work it vixen.

I would have preferred T'Pol and Seven in standard uniforms, but we got what we got and I'll live with and rationalized that. I do think that T'Pol's original uniform was a nod to T'Pring as it had the empire waist and some of the texture of her costume.
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Old April 16 2012, 01:33 AM   #37
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I'm not insulting you, I'm just picturing you watching VOY. Studying.
There is no rhetorical justification for bringing up such a thing except to attempt to discredit someone else's argument by insinuating that they're inappropriately fixated on the actor's body.
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Old April 16 2012, 03:46 AM   #38
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Ahh rhetoric. So educated and apparently so intelligent yet at a loss with dealing with the fairer sex. Why does it always seem to go hand in hand?
Tell me why professor Professor Frink?

In a nutshell:

Trek et.al. is a TV show
TV shows are produced to lure viewers to them
The plot and cast are designed to appeal to a certain demographic
That's all they are. Playful visuals to fill the time between commercials
Trek is not Luis Bunuel's That obscure object of desire
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Old April 16 2012, 05:10 AM   #39
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Ahh rhetoric. So educated and apparently so intelligent yet at a loss with dealing with the fairer sex. Why does it always seem to go hand in hand?
*yawns*

Got anything better?
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Old April 16 2012, 05:47 AM   #40
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Not for you. Engaging in the mindless drivel of your mind just isn't my style professor Frink. Excuse me while I watch 1 million years B.C.
Its so full of gratuitous sex. Rachel Welch - she would have made a great Vulcanesse.
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Old April 16 2012, 05:54 AM   #41
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Twenty posts of caterwauling about costumes? Seriously?

I am Surak wrote: View Post
In a nutshell:

Trek et.al. is a TV show
TV shows are produced to lure viewers to them
The plot and cast are designed to appeal to a certain demographic
That's all they are. Playful visuals to fill the time between commercials
Trek is not Luis Bunuel's That obscure object of desire
This.

These are TV shows. TV is a business, and this wouldn't be the first time continuity and logic (pun intended) were sacrificed in an attempt to raise ratings. Or at least attract attention. Look, it worked!

Back to your corners, all of you. You've each scored on points, so I'll call it a draw. The match is now over.

Now kindly steer the poor neglected topic (hello? T'Pol?) back on track, please. Any more off-topic squabbling, and I lock this puppy down or start handing out warnings. Or both. Then you'll all have to find someplace else to kick sand in each other's faces. Got it?


I liked the costumes. Crimony.
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Old April 16 2012, 06:08 AM   #42
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Ah Charles Atlas. Those ads worked for me.
Here is something to bring us back on track (trek?).

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Old April 16 2012, 06:21 AM   #43
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Rachel Welch - she would have made a great Vulcanesse.
Her time as a Necrotron on Mork and Mindy would have made good practice to be a Vulcan.

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Old April 16 2012, 08:45 AM   #44
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I would think that Vulcans would consider titilation, overt sexuality, and modesty as emotional constructs and as such, not logical. Therefore they would never even consider them in their choice or design of clothing.
On the other hand. I think Seven was making her clothing choices to demonstrate her physical superiority. In addition to demonstrating her intellectual superiority through her work.
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Old April 16 2012, 09:43 AM   #45
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T'Pol's catsuit was, aesthetically, quite nice to look at. (Can you tell I like understatement?)

But, despite this, I would've preferred her in a standard uniform. Likewise for Troi (in particular) and Seven of Nine. The latter had the excuse of post-operative healing, but the former just looked strange. Troi was always much more striking in a standard TNG uniform.

Moving right along...

I like T'Pol as a character, and thought Blalock did a good job with some horrible lines. To my mind, she used mannerism and gesture well to convey her emotional struggles.

Yes, she was standard Trek T & A - the television business hasn't changed in this regard since the 'sixties. But, like Jeri Ryan, she also acted well, and - when the script allowed - was quite moving.
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