VAN: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) - Page 9

David Mack · April 10 2012, 12:22 AM

^ Thank you, Benny. I'm glad it lived up to your expectations.

beamMe · April 10 2012, 11:00 AM

It's not good... not good at all... that this series is over.

A good finale.
The attack on Vanguard was the strongest part of the book, I think.
Most of what's good has already been said; what I didn't like was the name-dropping of Hofstadter and Koothrappali (Cooper was already in the Hub), and the late arrival of the Enterprise.
The series fared very well without Kirk and Co. and I think it wasn't a good idea to have the Enterprise, once again, swoop in and save the day.

BTW: You do like your "salt-and-pepper", don't you?

MatthiasRussell · April 10 2012, 03:02 PM

I for one could have gone for a chief engineer Wolowitz. Could have dropped his name saying he had to fix the Vanguard toilets! Maybe have waitress Penny in Ganz's employ.

beamMe · April 10 2012, 03:20 PM

MatthiasRussell wrote:

I for one could have gone for a chief engineer Wolowitz. Could have dropped his name saying he had to fix the Vanguard toilets!

He's good with those.

MatthiasRussell wrote:

Maybe have waitress Penny in Ganz's employ.

In an obituary written by Pennington?
"I knew her well, Cervantes..."

JWolf · April 10 2012, 08:54 PM

Patrick O'Brien wrote:

Deranged Nasat wrote:

I've just been informed that there's been a delay in shipping me my copy of Storming Heaven. Evidently they had a lot of orders. I hope it'll be sent my way soon.

This is when a kindle comes in handy

But given how nicely the ePub looks, the Kindle version will just be plain dull (to look at). Sony Reader 1, Amazon Kindle 0.

JWolf · April 10 2012, 08:57 PM

Just outstanding. Loved it from beginning to end. Great way to end the series.

RonG · April 12 2012, 02:34 PM

Simply amazing - Best ongoing Trek lit series bar none.

This is Star Trek done right - TOS setting with modern sensibilities and nuances.

(if there had been any doubt, I voted Outstanding

)

Mage · April 15 2012, 02:20 PM

Got it in yesterday, started reading at about 20.00 hours. It's now 15.18, and I finished it 18 minutes ago. What a read, just wow.

I find it very hard to grade Vanguard per novel, to me it's one long story. So I suppose the Outstanding I voted, goes for the entire series of Vanguard, and is a big THANK YOU, to David, Kevin, Dayton and Marco for their combined efforts, creating a series with a proper beginning, middle and end. This was just a fantastic read, and I'm gratefull for the effort that has gone into it.

MatthiasRussell · April 15 2012, 06:21 PM

Hopefully the Vanguard 4 get to coordinate on another project in the future.

David Mack · April 15 2012, 06:52 PM

^ We've talked about it, but we haven't found the right idea. It's also possible that trying to replicate this formula again wouldn't work — it might have been "lightning in a bottle", as the saying goes.

Ronald Held · April 15 2012, 09:28 PM

I often wondered what happened in the Ceta Alpha system after "Space Seed". No more.

MatthiasRussell · April 16 2012, 03:13 AM

I liked how Dayton Ward tied in VAN to the 24th century in "Paths of Disharmony" and how Destiny connected the 22nd and 24th centuries. If you do try another series, I hope it is something that spans over a large period of time.

BrotherBenny · April 16 2012, 04:18 AM

David Mack wrote:

^ We've talked about it, but we haven't found the right idea. It's also possible that trying to replicate this formula again wouldn't work — it might have been "lightning in a bottle", as the saying goes.

Lightning does however strike twice in the same location, regardless of the so-called axiom.

I think I speak for all readers of Vanguard when I say that we will wait for as long as it takes for that next brainstorm to come to you or the others.

Vanguard was the most like televised Trek (on HBO) could be, a seven year run with high ratings throughout. Network executives would frothing at the mouth to have that, so I can only imagine what the bean counters at Pocket Books are doing, other than muttering to the deities about bottling your synapses.

I, for one, will be looking forward to the next iteration of the Brain Trust.

JD · April 16 2012, 05:26 AM

^Yeah, what he said. I think what you guys did with Vanguard worked out great, I would be very happy to read another series done the same way.

RPJOB · April 16 2012, 06:19 AM

I haven't got it yet but I'm planning on turning off the phone and digging in as soon as I do. Don't you dare interrupt my Vanguard farewell.

I'm not looking for spoilers but I'm hoping that the end for Diego is something other than sitting in his country cabin. After what he allowed to happen to the colonists (including his ex wife) I hope for a bit more poetic justice for the end of his story. What he did was inexcusable.

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April 10 2012, 12:22 AM	#121
David Mack Writer Location: New York, NY	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) ^ Thank you, Benny. I'm glad it lived up to your expectations. __________________ ~ David Mack \| "Where were you when the page was blank?" — Truman Capote Join me on Facebook & Twitter

April 10 2012, 11:00 AM	#122
beamMe Fleet Captain Location: Europa	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) It's not good... not good at all... that this series is over. A good finale. The attack on Vanguard was the strongest part of the book, I think. Most of what's good has already been said; what I didn't like was the name-dropping of Hofstadter and Koothrappali (Cooper was already in the Hub), and the late arrival of the Enterprise. The series fared very well without Kirk and Co. and I think it wasn't a good idea to have the Enterprise, once again, swoop in and save the day. BTW: You do like your "salt-and-pepper", don't you?

April 10 2012, 03:02 PM	#123
MatthiasRussell Fleet Captain Location: Seattle	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) I for one could have gone for a chief engineer Wolowitz. Could have dropped his name saying he had to fix the Vanguard toilets! Maybe have waitress Penny in Ganz's employ. __________________ "Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers?"

April 10 2012, 08:57 PM	#126
JWolf Commodore Location: Massachusetts, USA	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) Just outstanding. Loved it from beginning to end. Great way to end the series. __________________ Jon

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April 12 2012, 02:34 PM	#127
RonG Captain Location: Fluidic Space	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) Simply amazing - Best ongoing Trek lit series bar none. This is Star Trek done right - TOS setting with modern sensibilities and nuances. (if there had been any doubt, I voted Outstanding ) __________________ RonG is Right!

April 15 2012, 02:20 PM	#128
Mage Fleet Captain	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) Got it in yesterday, started reading at about 20.00 hours. It's now 15.18, and I finished it 18 minutes ago. What a read, just wow. I find it very hard to grade Vanguard per novel, to me it's one long story. So I suppose the Outstanding I voted, goes for the entire series of Vanguard, and is a big THANK YOU, to David, Kevin, Dayton and Marco for their combined efforts, creating a series with a proper beginning, middle and end. This was just a fantastic read, and I'm gratefull for the effort that has gone into it. __________________ Niner. Lurker. Browncoat.

April 15 2012, 06:21 PM	#129
MatthiasRussell Fleet Captain Location: Seattle	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) Hopefully the Vanguard 4 get to coordinate on another project in the future. __________________ "Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers?"

April 15 2012, 06:52 PM	#130
David Mack Writer Location: New York, NY	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) ^ We've talked about it, but we haven't found the right idea. It's also possible that trying to replicate this formula again wouldn't work — it might have been "lightning in a bottle", as the saying goes. __________________ ~ David Mack \| "Where were you when the page was blank?" — Truman Capote Join me on Facebook & Twitter

April 15 2012, 09:28 PM	#131
Ronald Held Rear Admiral Location: On the USS Sovereign	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) I often wondered what happened in the Ceta Alpha system after "Space Seed". No more.

April 16 2012, 03:13 AM	#132
MatthiasRussell Fleet Captain Location: Seattle	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) I liked how Dayton Ward tied in VAN to the 24th century in "Paths of Disharmony" and how Destiny connected the 22nd and 24th centuries. If you do try another series, I hope it is something that spans over a large period of time. __________________ "Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers?"

April 16 2012, 05:26 AM	#134
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) ^Yeah, what he said. I think what you guys did with Vanguard worked out great, I would be very happy to read another series done the same way. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

April 16 2012, 06:19 AM	#135
RPJOB Commander	Re: Vanguard: Storming Heaven by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!) I haven't got it yet but I'm planning on turning off the phone and digging in as soon as I do. Don't you dare interrupt my Vanguard farewell. I'm not looking for spoilers but I'm hoping that the end for Diego is something other than sitting in his country cabin. After what he allowed to happen to the colonists (including his ex wife) I hope for a bit more poetic justice for the end of his story. What he did was inexcusable.