General Pro Wrestling News and Discussion Thread Part Deux!

[barnaclelapse]

I get why Brock is back, but I was never a big fan, so my interest is at the moment minimal.

Should still be interesting though.

[Satyrquaze]

My only real memory of Brock was his feud with Benoit indirectly led to the greatest match at WM that never happened.

That and his squash of Hulk Hogan.

[Admiral_Young]

My memories of Brock was the program with Angle, and unfortunately dropping Kurt on his neck a few times. I wasn't a huge fan as we discussed in the original whenever his name came up, but I am interested in seeing if WWE can do something with this or not.

[Mr Silver]

Brock Lesnar eh? Where do I begin...

Well let's try this, if WWE was making a Brock DVD (which they probably are) the sort of things that MUST be included would be:

We'd start with his sensational series of matches with Kurt Angle in 2003, which is probably the defining point of his career as a professional wrestler. His match at Summerslam 2002 against The Rock and his feud with The Undertaker are definitely things that I would include.

You also have to examine the lesser known elements of Lesnar, such as his incredible matches against Big Show where he performed such feats as Superplexing Big Show (which was redone last year with Mark Henry and Big Show) and even Powerbombing him from the middle turnbuckle! Then you have the infamous botched SSP, where Lesnar almost put himself out of action - permanently. The fact remains though, the near 300lb Lesnar was quite capable of performing the SSP and he regulary used the move during his OVW days.

[Admiral_Young]

I'd be shocked if a Lesnar DVD wasn't already in the works...speaking of which CM Punk's DVD finishes shooting at Extreme Rules this month. His family is supposed to be there or something according to him. This was a request. Not sure if they'll be in the DVD or not. For some reason if JeriTroll gets a rematch I get the feeling they're going to repeat what they did with Miz and Cena at last year's Extreme Rules where the WWE Champion lost to the challenger. I hope I'm wrong in this case, but I can't shake this feeling. I have stated from the start (and I know some of you disagree with me) that Jericho is gonna get the title during this program. If that happens I predict Punk will win it back again for his Third WWE Title reign.

Actually my ramblings create a question...who should Punk defend his title against next? If not Jericho...then who would be a good candidate? There aren't a lot right now. Maybe Dolph again? Mark Henry? Del Rio seems to be about to start a program with Sheamus. I've been thinking about this for a while and don't know.

[Mr Silver]

I'd say that there is the possibility of DB being drafted to Raw...

[Admiral_Young]

"Yes!!" "Yes!!" "Yes!!!" "Yes!!!"

I could see that happening. The draft is supposed to happen later this month.

[Mr Silver]

WWE seems to have abandoned the prohibition on blood, although I'm not convinced that Cena's busted lip was a blade job - nor am I convinced as to whether it was hard way because Brock would have knocked him loopy had he connected stiff. I would say it was probably fake blood, the same as what would appear from the mouths of those who were trapped in Undertaker's Hell's Gate submission in the early days of the move. The run in from the locker room (which was ridiculous, given that it shouldn't take twenty well built men and most of WWE's referee population to restrain two, no matter how out of control they might be) provided ample opportunity for one of the referees to slip a blood pack to Cena and for him to apply it.

I'm glad that WWE are pushing Brock as his old arrogant/monster heel self, because that's how he works best as a character. However, if WWE thinks that this will get the people behind Cena, they are terribly mistaken...

I wonder when they will just give up and let it be? After all, people pay good money to see a show where the likelyhood of Cena getting his ass kicked and/or massively negative reaction is very high - as Wrestlemania XXVIII appears to have demonstrated. (it's been rumoured that WM did 1.5 million buys, which is huge!)

I wonder if the alcohol that Jericho is using to "humiliate" CM Punk is non-alcoholic? Given Punk's strict adherence to the straight edge lifestyle, I can't imagine him agreeing to do it with real booze and nor should he have to.

[tomalak301]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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"Yes!!" "Yes!!" "Yes!!!" "Yes!!!"

I could see that happening. The draft is supposed to happen later this month.

Is Yes Yes Yes supposed to be the new "What?". At least the "What" was funny at first. "Yes" feels just too bland.

[Satyrquaze]

Admiral M wrote:

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WWE seems to have abandoned the prohibition on blood, although I'm not convinced that Cena's busted lip was a blade job - nor am I convinced as to whether it was hard way because Brock would have knocked him loopy had he connected stiff. I would say it was probably fake blood, the same as what would appear from the mouths of those who were trapped in Undertaker's Hell's Gate submission in the early days of the move. The run in from the locker room (which was ridiculous, given that it shouldn't take twenty well built men and most of WWE's referee population to restrain two, no matter how out of control they might be) provided ample opportunity for one of the referees to slip a blood pack to Cena and for him to apply it.

I'm glad that WWE are pushing Brock as his old arrogant/monster heel self, because that's how he works best as a character. However, if WWE thinks that this will get the people behind Cena, they are terribly mistaken...

I wonder when they will just give up and let it be? After all, people pay good money to see a show where the likelyhood of Cena getting his ass kicked and/or massively negative reaction is very high - as Wrestlemania XXVIII appears to have demonstrated. (it's been rumoured that WM did 1.5 million buys, which is huge!)

I wonder if the alcohol that Jericho is using to "humiliate" CM Punk is non-alcoholic? Given Punk's strict adherence to the straight edge lifestyle, I can't imagine him agreeing to do it with real booze and nor should he have to.

During Cena's promo with Johnny minutes afterward he was cleaned up, but his mouth area was badly swollen. I don't think that WWE make-up could fake that so convincingly. Seemed to me that Brock didn't expect to connect or simply briefly forgot it wasn't a UFC match. You'll note on the slow-mo that Brock connects and then adjusts and then repeatedly misses by a wide margin.

They did a similar angle with Triple H and Shawn Michaels shortly after Shawn came back in 2003. The locker room was emptied but it was not enough to restrain Michaels.

One would hope its non-alcoholic, I recall JBL doing something like that to Punk as well back in the day during Punk's first run with the WHC.

[barnaclelapse]

I always wondered if Raven poured actual alcohol on Punk during that one fantastic match they had ages and ages ago.

I would be extremely shocked if Jericho didn't win the title during this current run, but I also hope that WWE doesn't just do a rehash of last year.

Good stuff between Lesner and Cena on Raw, but, man oh man, did the Three Stooges thing annoy me a lot more than it ever should have.

Bret Hart noted Will Sasso being on Raw, and made a (perhaps tongue-in-cheek) comment about his match with Sasso being the best he ever had in WCW.

[Satyrquaze]

barnaclelapse wrote:

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Bret Hart noted Will Sasso being on Raw, and made a (perhaps tongue-in-cheek) comment about his match with Sasso being the best he ever had in WCW.

It may have been tounge-in-cheek, but the sad truth is that Sasso is in the running for Hart's best opponent in WCW. He's easily in the top ten.

[Admiral_Young]

^ That was one of the only good things they did with Bret. I remember falling for it lol. Heel Brock is back!!! This is already more interesting than Rock/Cena! I don't think Cena bladed, I think he took the shot to the lower face to make their encounter more believable. Botchamania might tell us otherwise, but couldn't make out a blade job.

[scnj]

barnaclelapse wrote:

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I always wondered if Raven poured actual alcohol on Punk during that one fantastic match they had ages and ages ago.

I read somewhere that it wasn't. I imagine the same applies here. It's not difficult to fake it being alcohol, and I doubt Punk would agree to it if they tried to push it on him.

[Admiral_Young]

"Yes!" is just a chant...no where near the glory of "What" yet. I thought it was pretty awesome when the crowd were chanting one more time, Brock thought about it, then was like nope! Heel Brock! Also it really pisses me off when Cole acts all heel like for a heel character he is "pushing" on camera in character but then go all inconsistent when Brock who is clearly supposed to be a heel right now goes and attacks Cena from behind and denounces the assault! This is what is frustrating with Cole's now toned down heel character.