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Old April 7 2012, 10:25 PM   #31
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Re: APRIL 2012 CHALLENGE - "Abandoned"

Not everyone will participate in every challenge, anyway. I'm looking forward to this month's (hopefully numerous) entries.
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Old April 8 2012, 02:38 AM   #32
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So there's a precedent for people being so averse to free reign?
They had other problems, but the topic thing was a sticking point.

In any case, I think that stories will naturally be limited due to aforementioned constraints regarding time and effort.
Direct restraints are more effective.

"Pick your own topic" seems a little different from letting people chose how many words they wish to write.
It's the same in that a set topic and a set word limit are constraints some find necessary.
I'm not going to carry on with this, it's becoming tiresome.

Those who wish to participate can, those who don't wish to, whether that be due to having no "direct restraints" or whatever else, are equally welcome to pass. "Direct restraints are more effective" just sounds so autocratic and joyless in my opinion.

There is no word limit for this month's challenge, so if some people find a word limit "necessary" in order to participate then clearly this one is not for them.

This is all a complete storm in a teacup though that is taking the shine off winning the challenge.
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Old April 8 2012, 02:42 AM   #33
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Not everyone will participate in every challenge, anyway. I'm looking forward to this month's (hopefully numerous) entries.
So am I.
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Old April 8 2012, 05:04 AM   #34
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I once said "Pick your own topic." You should have seen the fun we had over that.
So there's a precedent for people being so averse to free reign?
I don't look at it that way, as some sort of hate for freedom. Rather, writing within the boundaries of the topic and word count is part of the challenge--you not only must just do a freewrite, but you must plan and edit your stories appropriately and manage your time sufficiently to pull it off within the right time frame. It's very similar to writing a short story for a print anthology, which I'm sure is something that some of the authors here either have done or would like to do at some time.
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Old April 8 2012, 03:45 PM   #35
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I'm not going to carry on with this, it's becoming tiresome.

Those who wish to participate can, those who don't wish to, whether that be due to having no "direct restraints" or whatever else, are equally welcome to pass. "Direct restraints are more effective" just sounds so autocratic and joyless in my opinion.
"Autocratic and joyless?" Remember you wrote that at poll time when one of your entrants asks if he can vote for his own story.
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Old April 8 2012, 04:04 PM   #36
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Few things are more pathetic than people voting for their own story in my opinion.

Jespah did it once.
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Old April 8 2012, 04:08 PM   #37
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Re: APRIL 2012 CHALLENGE - "Abandoned"

Show me where I did that. I have entered, far as I recall, three of these. And I have not voted for my own work.

Show me where I did that.
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Old April 8 2012, 04:11 PM   #38
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Show me where I did that. I have entered, far as I recall, three of these. And I have not voted for my own work.

Show me where I did that.
Nah. I'm not bothered enough to go to that much effort I'm afraid.
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Old April 8 2012, 04:18 PM   #39
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Why not? You do have the burden of proof. Here, I'll even make it easy for you. I entered the January, February and March challenges. I voted for Milo Bloom for this one. In February, there were only two of us and so I did not vote. So - did I vote for myself in January? Gonna put your money where your mouth is? No? I didn't think so.
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Old April 8 2012, 04:22 PM   #40
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Good grief, you'd swear I'd accused you of murder...
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Old April 8 2012, 04:30 PM   #41
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Even one 50K word story would be too long to read fast, unless someone has whole days off. And believe me, I've seen an entry for a challenge at another place that could qualify for a short novel.
Eep! That was me you're talking about! I don't mind there being no word limit, however the author of the story should be aware of how people vote and decide, so a too long story could actually decrease the chances of the author winning no matter how good their story is.
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Old April 8 2012, 06:30 PM   #42
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"Autocratic and joyless?" Remember you wrote that at poll time when one of your entrants asks if he can vote for his own story.
Will do.
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Old April 8 2012, 09:21 PM   #43
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Good grief, you'd swear I'd accused you of murder...
Well, it's an accusation that carries some stigma in the fan fic community or at least once. One should be careful of naming names without proof or evidence.

You should probably make the poll public, Angry Fanboy, to prevent any such accusations because then people can see how other people voted.
However, I can only remember it happening once, quite a long time ago, and it caused quite some outrage at the time.
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Old April 9 2012, 02:00 AM   #44
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Even one 50K word story would be too long to read fast, unless someone has whole days off. And believe me, I've seen an entry for a challenge at another place that could qualify for a short novel.
Eep! That was me you're talking about!
I didn't want any finger pointing, so no names were given
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Old April 9 2012, 02:27 AM   #45
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Few things are more pathetic than people voting for their own story in my opinion.
And it's nobody's business who votes for what but the voter's, your opinion notwithstanding.
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