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Old March 26 2012, 03:02 AM   #31
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Re: The Legend of Korra - Book One: Air

Absolutely brilliant. This show is shaping up to be even better than the original. It at least has a much better beginning.
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Old March 26 2012, 04:31 AM   #32
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I watched the first two episodes again (yep, it's that good), and I had a couple more thoughts. One, the pro-bending folks are surprisingly blase about discovering the Avatar is on their team. I mean, the Avatar's kind of the most important person in the world, this deeply sacred figure. It's kinda like having the Dalai Lama or the Pope join a sports team. Yet the sports folks merely had a few moments of surprise and then just rolled with it. That seemed like something got glossed over for the sake of pacing.

Also, one thing that concerns me a bit is that so far, all the bad guys seem to be male. I know Azula, Mai, and Ty Lee are tough acts to follow, but it's just not an Avatar-verse show without awesome, kickass young ladies on both sides.

And I guess that "roll eyes skyward, then give a world-weary sigh" business is pretty clearly going to be Tenzin's "thing," but what's impressive is that the animators have him do it a bit differently each time. I love the attention to detail. Joaquim Dos Santos is probably the best animation director in television (though credit should also be given to his co-director here, Ki Hyun Ryu), and it's great to see his work again.
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Old March 26 2012, 04:40 AM   #33
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Old March 26 2012, 05:55 AM   #34
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I got to watch these this afternoon and was very impressed. The animation is great; I love the expressions of the characters. The metal bender policemen were really cool, and I like all the designs of the city and vehicles.
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Old March 26 2012, 02:52 PM   #35
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If you haven't seen it yet, the premiere two-parter is still up on the Korra Nation website. I thought it was going to be up for just the weekend. But happy to keep watching.
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Old March 27 2012, 05:49 AM   #36
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Finally saw both episodes. It's great to have the world of Avatar back. When The Last Airbender ended, it felt like a real goodbye. I had to face the possibility that that was it, but here we are again. Another full series. So far so good, and it looks like they've captured lightning in a bottle a second time. They've introduced us to an updated world and they've really upped the stakes with the central conflict. The idea of a villain who wants to rid the world of bending certainly has my attention and I can't wait to see where this goes. I fear for Korra in the same way that I'd fear for Superman and gold kryptonite.

A few more thoughts...

- I haven't warmed up to these characters as quickly as I did with The Last Airbender. I like Korra and Tenzin, I'm just not completely onboard yet with the guys on the probending team.

- Looks like the team will be central to the show. I'm not super thrilled about that either, but I'm willing to see it through.

- I agree that it's odd to have most of the original characters dead, given that it's only been about 70 years. Maybe they died heroically.

- Loved the reference to Zuko's mother. Looks like they're dancing around that the way Babylon 5 did with the telepath war.

- The Dalai Lama is named "Tenzin". Good nod.

- From the opening credits, it looked like Republic City was in the Earth nation.

- Those other monks in the temple couldn't have been air benders. Bending is hereditary, so Tenzin and his kids should be the only air benders, unless Katara had other kids with bending capabilities.

- Wouldn't it be something if we got an avatar who couldn't bend one of the elements at all? I was thinking of that as I watched.

- I liked the music and visuals for the closing credits.

- The old show had a lot of heart and so does this one.
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Old March 27 2012, 06:08 AM   #37
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- From the opening credits, it looked like Republic City was in the Earth nation.
Technically it's not in the earth kingdom, it's on former earth kingdom territory, the entire United Republic is, where else could it be? It was created out of the former Fire Nation colonies, the colonies obviously can't be in the Fire Nation, the poles aren't exactly attractive spots to create colonies and we know the air temples weren't turned into fire nation colonies.

- Wouldn't it be something if we got an avatar who couldn't bend one of the elements at all? I was thinking of that as I watched.
What? Maybe you should think about this a little bit more, because it's absolutely impossible. The avatar is defined by his ability to bend all four elements, if he can't bend any he's a non-bender. Do you have any other ideas, like an earth bender who bends fire instead of earth?
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Old March 27 2012, 06:15 AM   #38
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^ I was asking "What if an avatar couldn't bend one of the elements?", not "What if they couldn't bend any of the elements?" In other words... What if we discovered that Korra could never bend air? What if she could only bend three out of the four elements? It was just a thought.
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Old March 27 2012, 07:17 AM   #39
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You're right, I misread what you're wrote. My point still stands, the avatar is defined by his ability to bend all four elements, even if learning one is harder than the others, the avatar can do it.
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Old March 27 2012, 02:35 PM   #40
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- I haven't warmed up to these characters as quickly as I did with The Last Airbender. I like Korra and Tenzin, I'm just not completely onboard yet with the guys on the probending team.
I'm having much the same reaction so far. Hopefully this show will accumulate a rich supporting cast like the original did.


- Those other monks in the temple couldn't have been air benders. Bending is hereditary, so Tenzin and his kids should be the only air benders, unless Katara had other kids with bending capabilities.
According to the Avatar Wiki, Aang and Katara's first two children -- named Kya (for Katara's mother) and Bumi -- were non-benders. So Tenzin is the only living adult airbender, though all three of his children so far are also airbenders. Korra did say in chapter 1 that Tenzin was the only airbending master in the world.

I'm surprised that it worked out that way, though. I figured that if Aang's spirit-bending could let him take away someone's bending ability, it could also let him imbue someone with bending ability. So I figured he could've created hundreds of airbenders that way, instead of having to repopulate the line the old-fashioned way. I guess that's not the way it works, though, and I wonder why.


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^ I was asking "What if an avatar couldn't bend one of the elements?", not "What if they couldn't bend any of the elements?" In other words... What if we discovered that Korra could never bend air? What if she could only bend three out of the four elements? It was just a thought.
The very idea is a contradiction in terms. The Avatar is the nexus of spiritual balance in the world. Fire is balanced by water, earth is balanced by air. Remove any one of those elements and the balance is lost -- just as the balance of the world was lost when Fire Lord Sozin wiped out the Air Nomads. Not to mention that every Avatar contains the same soul as every previous Avatar. Spiritually, Korra is not just Korra, she's also Aang and Roku and Kyoshi and Kuruk and Yangchen and so on all the way back to the beginning. So she has the soul of an airbender just as much as she has the soul of a waterbender, earthbender, and firebender. It's impossible to separate one of those threads out of who she is. Her current personality or genetics may make it difficult for her to access that part of her spirit, but it's definitely within her.
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Old March 27 2012, 02:36 PM   #41
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- Looks like the team will be central to the show. I'm not super thrilled about that either, but I'm willing to see it through.
Its the same core group as the last Avatar. There's the Avatar, a lover of the opposite sex and a plucky sidekick for comedic relief.

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- Those other monks in the temple couldn't have been air benders. Bending is hereditary, so Tenzin and his kids should be the only air benders, unless Katara had other kids with bending capabilities.
I wasn't really paying a lot of attention to the 2nd episode, but I don't remember seeing any other monks bending air in the temple. For all we know, Tenzin and his children are the only air-benders in the temple and the other monks are non-benders who were there to learn monkly stuff from Aang and Tenzin.
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Old March 27 2012, 02:39 PM   #42
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You're right, I misread what you're wrote. My point still stands, the avatar is defined by his ability to bend all four elements, even if learning one is harder than the others, the avatar can do it.
We know there are more than four now. Can the Avatar metal-bend as well?

For a second there, I had this image of the Avatar in some kind of metal band, and it almost works. lol
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Old March 27 2012, 02:54 PM   #43
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According to the Avatar Wiki, Aang and Katara's first two children -- named Kya (for Katara's mother) and Bumi -- were non-benders.
Kya is a waterbender, Bumi ist the only non-bender and some fans are already speculating that he's Amon. I hope not because that would be really lame.

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We know there are more than four now. Can the Avatar metal-bend as well?
No, there are still only four elements, metalbending is earthbending and of course the avatar can metalbend, every earthbender can theoretically learn it, it's not its own bending style, just an advanced form.
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Old March 27 2012, 03:59 PM   #44
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^Right -- metalbending is one of the specialized bending techniques or subskills -- a variation of an existing bending ability rather than a separate one. As explained in "The Guru," metal contains trace impurities of earth which highly skilled earthbenders can sense and manipulate. (Which implies that metallurgical techniques in the Avatar World are a bit crude; so if the Equalists could develop more advanced techniques and produce impurity-free metals, those could be used as a weapon/defense against the metalbender cops.)
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Old March 27 2012, 06:08 PM   #45
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I figured that if Aang's spirit-bending could let him take away someone's bending ability, it could also let him imbue someone with bending ability. So I figured he could've created hundreds of airbenders that way, instead of having to repopulate the line the old-fashioned way. I guess that's not the way it works, though, and I wonder why.
It would probably make things too easy if the avatar could just imbue anyone with bending abilities. I wonder if this show will deal with that though. What if it explored the issue of non-benders developing or being given abilities. The story seems ripe for that. And as I suggested earlier, I wonder if these equalists will find some way to take away Korra's bending abilities.

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The Avatar is the nexus of spiritual balance in the world. Fire is balanced by water, earth is balanced by air. Remove any one of those elements and the balance is lost -- just as the balance of the world was lost when Fire Lord Sozin wiped out the Air Nomads. Not to mention that every Avatar contains the same soul as every previous Avatar. Spiritually, Korra is not just Korra, she's also Aang and Roku and Kyoshi and Kuruk and Yangchen and so on all the way back to the beginning. So she has the soul of an airbender just as much as she has the soul of a waterbender, earthbender, and firebender. It's impossible to separate one of those threads out of who she is. Her current personality or genetics may make it difficult for her to access that part of her spirit, but it's definitely within her.
Fair enough. Seeing Korra unable to bend air had me concerned, or at least made me think a little about the situation and possible twists for the story. I guess that's a testament to the show's writing, the richness of the world of Avatar and the show's underlying ideas.

As for this metal bending business and the idea of bending other elements, I always thought that "Sparky Sparky Boom Man" came off as more of a light bender, especially since his power eminated from his third eye which is the chakra for light. In fact, all through watching The Last Airbender, I couldn't help but think it would have been an interesting twist to reveal three additional elements to the mix... Sound, Light and Thought. Those, and the classic four make up the seven elements of the chakra system.

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Its the same core group as the last Avatar. There's the Avatar, a lover of the opposite sex and a plucky sidekick for comedic relief.
At first, I thought she was going to befriend that wacky guy in the park and that he'd fill the "Sokka" role.
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