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Old March 24 2012, 05:59 PM   #1711
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

It'll get finished eventually.
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Old March 24 2012, 06:07 PM   #1712
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

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So guess Exeter is pretty much dead in the water? What a shame. Wish they had finished "Tressaurian".
In defense of the Exeter folks, I can understand how this may have happened. Editing a film in post production takes a tremendous amount of patience, focus and concentration. For a fan film, where people have full time jobs, and there's no release date, and no pressure from investors, time can easily slip away. Weeks become months, and months become years.

I'm guessing they're not happy with the product. That's just my guess. If I'm correct, they may want to consider handing the raw footage over to someone else who can take a fresh look at it. Perhaps there's a skilled editor who is also a Trek fan and willing to do it for free.

Just a thought.
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Old March 24 2012, 07:08 PM   #1713
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

scienceguy wrote: View Post
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So guess Exeter is pretty much dead in the water? What a shame. Wish they had finished "Tressaurian".
In defense of the Exeter folks, I can understand how this may have happened. Editing a film in post production takes a tremendous amount of patience, focus and concentration. For a fan film, where people have full time jobs, and there's no release date, and no pressure from investors, time can easily slip away. Weeks become months, and months become years.

I'm guessing they're not happy with the product. That's just my guess. If I'm correct, they may want to consider handing the raw footage over to someone else who can take a fresh look at it. Perhaps there's a skilled editor who is also a Trek fan and willing to do it for free.

Just a thought.
I think that's actually what happened and what is happening.
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Old March 24 2012, 10:26 PM   #1714
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

MikeH92467 wrote: View Post
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So guess Exeter is pretty much dead in the water? What a shame. Wish they had finished "Tressaurian".
In defense of the Exeter folks, I can understand how this may have happened. Editing a film in post production takes a tremendous amount of patience, focus and concentration. For a fan film, where people have full time jobs, and there's no release date, and no pressure from investors, time can easily slip away. Weeks become months, and months become years.

I'm guessing they're not happy with the product. That's just my guess. If I'm correct, they may want to consider handing the raw footage over to someone else who can take a fresh look at it. Perhaps there's a skilled editor who is also a Trek fan and willing to do it for free.

Just a thought.
I think that's actually what happened and what is happening.
That is exactly what's happened. The editor in question is currently busy working on Polaris. I would imagine he'll get back to Exeter eventually.
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Old March 24 2012, 11:01 PM   #1715
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

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In defense of the Exeter folks, I can understand how this may have happened. Editing a film in post production takes a tremendous amount of patience, focus and concentration. For a fan film, where people have full time jobs, and there's no release date, and no pressure from investors, time can easily slip away. Weeks become months, and months become years.

I'm guessing they're not happy with the product. That's just my guess. If I'm correct, they may want to consider handing the raw footage over to someone else who can take a fresh look at it. Perhaps there's a skilled editor who is also a Trek fan and willing to do it for free.

Just a thought.
I think that's actually what happened and what is happening.
That is exactly what's happened. The editor in question is currently busy working on Polaris. I would imagine he'll get back to Exeter eventually.
Why does an entire film get precedent over a final act that people have been waiting ***years*** to see? Editing Polaris will take years as well, so won't that push the final act of Tressaurian that much further back? Will we even see it before the end of this decade, if at all?
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Old March 24 2012, 11:17 PM   #1716
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

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Why does an entire film get precedent over a final act that people have been waiting ***years*** to see??
I've gotten tired of explaining this, so it'll be the last time.

Exeter is a side project for me. I've worked on it between other commitments (Polaris, the music videos I do for the Kinsey Sicks, etc). Act Four wasn't working as edited (due to material from Act Four being used in Act Three, thus borrowing from Peter to Pay Paul), so I started over and decided to cut it from scratch. When it's done I'll explain in detail the challenges of doing this and why it was difficult, but to say so now would give away climactic plot points.
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Old March 25 2012, 05:11 AM   #1717
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

Two Words: Yorktown II. (Translation: Never give up, never surrender. Yorktown II was shot in the 1980s and is now in the works, with a planned release date of 2013.)
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Old March 25 2012, 09:57 PM   #1718
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Why does an entire film get precedent over a final act that people have been waiting ***years*** to see?
Pretty much because those of us who actually work on these movies for free feel like it.

There are better, more nuanced answers as well of course...but that particular question phrased in that way didn't deserve one of them IMAO.
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Old March 25 2012, 10:44 PM   #1719
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Why does an entire film get precedent over a final act that people have been waiting ***years*** to see?
Pretty much because those of us who actually work on these movies for free feel like it.

There are better, more nuanced answers as well of course...but that particular question phrased in that way didn't deserve one of them IMAO.
Oh ok, you got me Keyboard Kommando. I'm mortally wounded.

Anyhoo, I got an answer. Don't really care how you chose to phrase your little rant. Good luck with your constipation, dude.
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Old March 26 2012, 01:20 AM   #1720
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Anyhoo, I got an answer.
Good, then.
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Old March 26 2012, 01:35 AM   #1721
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

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Why does an entire film get precedent over a final act that people have been waiting ***years*** to see?
Pretty much because those of us who actually work on these movies for free feel like it.

There are better, more nuanced answers as well of course...but that particular question phrased in that way didn't deserve one of them IMAO.
Oh ok, you got me Keyboard Kommando. I'm mortally wounded.

Anyhoo, I got an answer. Don't really care how you chose to phrase your little rant. Good luck with your constipation, dude.
That wasn't a rant. It's you who's being unnecessarily rude, and attitudes like yours that stopped us from posting updates.
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Old March 26 2012, 01:37 AM   #1722
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

Maurice wrote: View Post
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Why does an entire film get precedent over a final act that people have been waiting ***years*** to see??
I've gotten tired of explaining this, so it'll be the last time.

Exeter is a side project for me. I've worked on it between other commitments (Polaris, the music videos I do for the Kinsey Sicks, etc). Act Four wasn't working as edited (due to material from Act Four being used in Act Three, thus borrowing from Peter to Pay Paul), so I started over and decided to cut it from scratch. When it's done I'll explain in detail the challenges of doing this and why it was difficult, but to say so now would give away climactic plot points.

Thanks Maurice. While this may be your last time explaining it, it was my first time hearing it, so it was good to get that bit of info.

I've long since stopped looking for updates on Exeter and Polaris because a watched pot never boils. It'll be here when it get's here.

Good luck to all of you working on this stuff and more importantly.....


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Old March 26 2012, 02:35 AM   #1723
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

My Name Is Legion wrote: View Post
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Why does an entire film get precedent over a final act that people have been waiting ***years*** to see?
Pretty much because those of us who actually work on these movies for free feel like it.

There are better, more nuanced answers as well of course...but that particular question phrased in that way didn't deserve one of them IMAO.
That's okay, Legion. I'm sick of these people who are getting great material for FREE having some greedy sense of entitlement. I've seen it happen with a number of fan movies, stories, etc. Certain fans think the FREE stuff there getting is owed to them.
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Old March 26 2012, 02:41 AM   #1724
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You know who, if anyone, has a right to be miffed about Starship Exeter are the folks who actually donated money or materials with the promise of an eventual credit or "Making of..." CD, etc. I don't doubt that some of these folks have been annoyed enough to contact the producers (I haven't personally heard about it) but there's been remarkably little complaint on the part of folks who actively supported the production itself back in 2004-2005.
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Old March 26 2012, 02:54 AM   #1725
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Re: Whatever happened to Starship Exeter?

Many moons ago, I donated a whopping $25 for a "Making of..." DVD. But I have no reason to complain about the film not being finished yet. Maybe it'll be finished one day, and maybe it won't... I knew very well that I was donating to assist a volunteer/fan effort. Bitching about it seems silly.

But I did email to update my mailing address. If the DVDs are ever sent out, I hope someone sees my email and sends to the right place. If not, I'll probably just donate again. I don't envy the person responsible for getting these DVDs off to the correct addresses. I've moved twice since donating, and will likely have moved at least once more before the film is finished. I actually sent them my parents' address this time, as it is less likely to change in the next few years.
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