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Old March 21 2012, 08:54 PM   #691
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Also, Dragonstone was home to the most loyal of the Targ Loyalists IIRC. Someone trustworthy had to go there to make sure they weren't planning something.
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Old March 21 2012, 09:05 PM   #692
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Not really. The Targaryens fled in secret because the castellan and co. were debating turning them over to Robert. And the Island is barely inhabited, anyway - just change the castle garrison.
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Old March 21 2012, 10:34 PM   #693
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Robert and Aerys the Mad were the worst things to happen to Westeros. Sure, Rhaegar didn't exactly help matters by running off with Lyanna like he did, but from the sound of it, Rhaegar would have been a hundred times the king that Robert turned out to be.
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Old March 22 2012, 01:13 AM   #694
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Jace lacob has impressions of the first 3 episodes!

@televisionary: The first two episodes of S2 #GameofThrones are very, very strong indeed. Some spellbinding, heart-pounding stuff. I've missed this world.

Episode 3:

Another fantastic episode of #GameOfThrones, written by @BryanCogman. Brutal, beautiful, and glittering in its malice. Loved. Saving 204…



Ken tucker review:

And I'm here to report that my lack of homework in no way prevented me from becoming enthralled with this series all over again. That's a testament to what adapters David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have accomplished in whittling down and reshaping Martin's novels for weekly TV. It's difficult enough to hook a viewer like me, who resists sprawling, noncontemporary narratives; it's another level of pop culture wizardry to make such storytelling seem so vivid, so vital, and just plain fun. A-
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Old March 22 2012, 01:29 AM   #695
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It's a nice subtly for a series that's supposedly dark and cynical: The guys who are amoral (Tywin) and violate their own principles (Stannis) may seem to have the upper hand but eventually it blows up in their faces (Tywin suffering patricide, Stannis' usage of black magic ended up giving the Lannisters a huge advantage).
Stanis's problem is that he isn't using enough black magic. Aegon had his dragons and he used this for shock and awe.l He rode in like a pimp, incinerated his enemies, and made everyone bow down before him. And that's what Stanis should have been emulating.

Mel gives Stanis a decisive advantage that he should have flaunted from the very beginning instead of trying to keep it a secret. When he decides that he wants Mel to stay away from that assault of King's Landing because he doesn't want to be accused of winning the throne via black magic, he's making an incredibly stupid error. If I were in his position I'd want everyone to know that I won the throne via black magic. People do not fuck with sorcerer-kings.

And once the war is over Stanis would have plenty of time to get Mel to teach him her tricks, become a Lich, and rule Westeros forever.
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Old March 22 2012, 01:53 AM   #696
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Mel's black magic is powered from Stannis' own life energy though, if she kept using it she would've killed him eventually.
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Old March 22 2012, 02:56 AM   #697
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Mel's black magic is powered from Stannis' own life energy though, if she kept using it she would've killed him eventually.
That's one of the reasons why becoming an immortal undead monster should be part of the long-term plan.
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Old March 22 2012, 05:55 AM   #698
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Also, Dragonstone was home to the most loyal of the Targ Loyalists IIRC.
Yep. House Velaryon is one example.
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Old March 25 2012, 08:47 PM   #699
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Readers know who this is...
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Old March 25 2012, 09:04 PM   #700
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Readers know who this is...
http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/wic...9kbyKgx1r9h4he

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Depends on the book, of course.

Yeah he looks good, I was never quite able to imagine him from the descriptions in the books.
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Old March 25 2012, 09:29 PM   #701
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Surprised to see him in this coming season.
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Old March 25 2012, 10:52 PM   #702
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IIRC (although it's been a while since I read ACOK), he doesn't show up until the very end of the book / season.

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Old March 26 2012, 05:45 PM   #703
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HBO has released two new promos, the new faces of season 2 and the destinations of season 2:



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Old March 29 2012, 03:42 AM   #704
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Not sure if anyone has seen/read this article already, but a good interview with GRRM. Some talk of TWOW in it.

http://www.smartertravel.com/blogs/t...ml?id=10593041

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Old March 29 2012, 11:36 AM   #705
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"I'm going to open [The Winds of Winter] with the two big battles that I was building up to, the battle in the ice and the battle of Slaver's Bay. And then take it from there."

He should've showed at least one of them in ADwD. We had about 12 chapters per location building up to those battles, but no payoff at all. It was kind of frustrating.

I want the GRRM back who put the Battle of Blackwater Rush in ACoK.
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