RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 137,867
Posts: 5,328,917
Members: 24,555
Currently online: 547
Newest member: ndjamena

TrekToday headlines

Retro Review: Inquisition
By: Michelle on Jul 12

Cubify Star Trek 3DMe Mini Figurines
By: T'Bonz on Jul 11

Latest Official Starships Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Jul 10

Seven of Nine Bobble Head
By: T'Bonz on Jul 9

Pegg The Prankster
By: T'Bonz on Jul 9

More Trek Stars Join Unbelievable!!!!!
By: T'Bonz on Jul 8

Star Trek #35 Preview
By: T'Bonz on Jul 8

New ThinkGeek Trek Apparel
By: T'Bonz on Jul 7

Star Trek Movie Prop Auction
By: T'Bonz on Jul 7

Drexler: NX Engineering Room Construction
By: T'Bonz on Jul 7


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Misc. Star Trek > Future of Trek

Future of Trek Discussion of future Trek projects.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old March 10 2012, 12:36 PM   #76
Sjaddix
Lieutenant Commander
 
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

she was half because it gave her an empathy ability that proved useful.
Sjaddix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 10 2012, 01:23 PM   #77
Bry_Sinclair
Commodore
 
Bry_Sinclair's Avatar
 
Location: Along the border of Talarian space
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

And a full-blooded Betazoid security specialist wouldn't be useful?

Besides, I never said the Betazoid had to be Caucasian.
__________________
Avatar: Captain Susanna Leijten, U.S.S. Silverfin NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron
Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)
Bry_Sinclair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 10 2012, 04:27 PM   #78
Tribble puncher
Commander
 
Tribble puncher's Avatar
 
Location: Lexington, KY
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

Temis the Vorta wrote: View Post
BrownShatner wrote: View Post
Modern Star Trek has gotten away from the Alien = Rubber Forehead formula. So you could have an alien captain that fit the normal lead actor looks stereotypes and wouldn't have scabies on his face.

Don't forget Superman is an alien, but still fulfills the all-american boy type character. You could imagine a typical Captain character which also has psychic abilities or incredible strength.
Supes looks completely human. Star Trek doesn't really do completely human looking aliens. Last time I checked, they were firmly in the rubber forehead mold. When did they change? I'd love to think that there's some new Star Trek out there that somehow escaped my eagle eye.

But howabout this - an android captain!!! Or maybe an augment or a hologram? Those are the three main ways to have a human-looking but "alien" character in Star Trek.
How about a navigator with down syndrome and a dwarf as the engineering officer while we are at it?
Hey, a dwarf would fit into the Jeffreys tubes much better...wow, would that be un-PC.

Too many people would be wondering why a robot captain even bothers walking around when he could just plug directly into the ship. Don't even get me started on holographic captains and crew. I don't see holographic factory workers on automated production lines. so why on a ship? the ship would be running itself in effect. so why bother with interiors and fake humans running around. The doctor in Voyager was kind've a silly concept to begin with. The only reason he wasn't laughed off the show was because Robert Picardo did a good job playing him, and you quit thinking about the fact he was a hologram.
Tribble puncher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 10 2012, 11:15 PM   #79
Bry_Sinclair
Commodore
 
Bry_Sinclair's Avatar
 
Location: Along the border of Talarian space
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

I understand the concept on an EMH, on ships with a small medical staff they would need back up if faced with a major crisis. But when he started wanting to be more than the ship's doctor I just didn't buy it, especially that whole "ECH" thing. Why not just turn command over to the computer, as that is all a hologram is.

In the next series they should do everything possible to distance themselves from the holographic rights crap that VOY tried to ram down our throat. A hologram, even one as sophisticated as the Doctor, is still a mass market computer programme. Data's status as a sentient being is different in that he is pretty unique, but after holograms it's be the phaser banks, then the warp reactor, then the toaster all looking to be recognised (ok a bit fanciful that, but there I see little difference between a hologram and any other ship system, its a tool).

I could understand a crew member being cyberised following the war, in order to repair serious injuries, but I think that Trek can leave androids/robots and holograms alone for the time being.
__________________
Avatar: Captain Susanna Leijten, U.S.S. Silverfin NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron
Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)
Bry_Sinclair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 11 2012, 07:43 AM   #80
T'Girl
Vice Admiral
 
T'Girl's Avatar
 
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

Temis the Vorta wrote: View Post
BrownShatner wrote: View Post
How about a navigator with down syndrome and a dwarf as the engineering officer while we are at it?
Hey, a dwarf would fit into the Jeffreys tubes much better...wow, would that be un-PC.
Giggles aside, a dwarf regular would be a good idea.

I've also considered a actor/actress who was a child, six to nine years old, with facial makeup to make them appear in their twenties or thirties. Dub the voice probably too. You could use them in a story arc, then by necessary get rid of them before they grew out of the role.

Get some basketball player sized folks in there too, as long as they reasonable can walk down the corridors. Slight bowing perhaps through the doorways.

Not everyone in the Federation is going to be "normal" sized.

(The seven foot four woman, can have a romance, with the four foot one man)

T'Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 11 2012, 09:38 PM   #81
Sjaddix
Lieutenant Commander
 
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

T'Girl wrote: View Post
Temis the Vorta wrote: View Post
BrownShatner wrote: View Post
How about a navigator with down syndrome and a dwarf as the engineering officer while we are at it?
Hey, a dwarf would fit into the Jeffreys tubes much better...wow, would that be un-PC.
Giggles aside, a dwarf regular would be a good idea.

I've also considered a actor/actress who was a child, six to nine years old, with facial makeup to make them appear in their twenties or thirties. Dub the voice probably too. You could use them in a story arc, then by necessary get rid of them before they grew out of the role.

Get some basketball player sized folks in there too, as long as they reasonable can walk down the corridors. Slight bowing perhaps through the doorways.

Not everyone in the Federation is going to be "normal" sized.

(The seven foot four woman, can have a romance, with the four foot one man)

I see no point in that with medical advances. They probably eliminated that particular condition. Same reason u don't see any obese people.
Sjaddix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 11 2012, 09:40 PM   #82
Sjaddix
Lieutenant Commander
 
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

Bry_Sinclair wrote: View Post
I understand the concept on an EMH, on ships with a small medical staff they would need back up if faced with a major crisis. But when he started wanting to be more than the ship's doctor I just didn't buy it, especially that whole "ECH" thing. Why not just turn command over to the computer, as that is all a hologram is.

In the next series they should do everything possible to distance themselves from the holographic rights crap that VOY tried to ram down our throat. A hologram, even one as sophisticated as the Doctor, is still a mass market computer programme. Data's status as a sentient being is different in that he is pretty unique, but after holograms it's be the phaser banks, then the warp reactor, then the toaster all looking to be recognised (ok a bit fanciful that, but there I see little difference between a hologram and any other ship system, its a tool).

I could understand a crew member being cyberised following the war, in order to repair serious injuries, but I think that Trek can leave androids/robots and holograms alone for the time being.
What Makes Data different is he is a totally independent Android with a Body and actual intelligence beyond mere programming. Holograms without 29th century tech don't have bodies.

I have always thought that medical staff and sick bay seemed way too small.
Sjaddix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 11 2012, 10:21 PM   #83
Bry_Sinclair
Commodore
 
Bry_Sinclair's Avatar
 
Location: Along the border of Talarian space
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

I'm sure I remember reading something ages ago about the medical staff onboard a Constitution-Class ship comprising of 30 doctors, nurses, orderlies, etc.

Out of a crew of 430, that would mean one medical specialist for every 14 crewmembers. I have often used this calculation to work out the medical departments on my fanfic ships.
__________________
Avatar: Captain Susanna Leijten, U.S.S. Silverfin NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron
Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)
Bry_Sinclair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 11 2012, 11:44 PM   #84
Sjaddix
Lieutenant Commander
 
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

really it never seemed that way on the shows to me and I never thought they had enough beds in sick bay if they have mass casulities but with those numbers better then I thought.
Sjaddix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 12 2012, 03:04 AM   #85
T'Girl
Vice Admiral
 
T'Girl's Avatar
 
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

Sjaddix wrote: View Post
I see no point in that with medical advances. They probably eliminated that particular condition. Same reason u don't see any obese people.
I meant dwarf actor to depict a alien species to whom that would be a natural stature.

")
T'Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 12 2012, 08:12 AM   #86
Bry_Sinclair
Commodore
 
Bry_Sinclair's Avatar
 
Location: Along the border of Talarian space
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

Sjaddix wrote: View Post
really it never seemed that way on the shows to me and I never thought they had enough beds in sick bay if they have mass casulities but with those numbers better then I thought.
We only ever saw the main ward. Depending on the size of the crew, then the medical facilities would be designed accordingly.

Anyways back to the topic.
__________________
Avatar: Captain Susanna Leijten, U.S.S. Silverfin NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron
Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)
Bry_Sinclair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 18 2012, 04:05 AM   #87
Anji
Rear Admiral
 
Anji's Avatar
 
Location: Assisting in the birth of baby Horta on Janus VI
View Anji's Twitter Profile
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

All for an alien captain as long as: it fits the script and contributes to the dynamic of the stories.
__________________
"You may be wrong, but you may be right." - Billy Joel
Anji is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 19 2012, 05:47 PM   #88
Patrick O'Brien
Captain
 
Patrick O'Brien's Avatar
 
Location: Brooklyn NY
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

Star Trek Online has made the new Captian of the Enterprise-F an Andorian. Just some food for thought
__________________
The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe.
-Dr. McCoy, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Patrick O'Brien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 19 2012, 06:22 PM   #89
Yevetha
Commodore
 
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

Maybe we could have a temporary alien captain, like Jellico was for the Enterprise.
Yevetha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 21 2012, 08:12 PM   #90
T'Girl
Vice Admiral
 
T'Girl's Avatar
 
Re: Could we have an alien Captain?

Prime directive violations, crossing the wrong boarder, sexual harassment, disregarding orders, every few episodes TPTB replace the actor depicting the ship's Captain.

Kind of like Murphy Brown's secretary.

T'Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:36 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.