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Old March 20 2012, 03:18 AM   #16
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Re: JOHN CARTER movie fans already demanding a sequel

JOHN CARTER is one of the best feature films that I've watched in a long time.

It is also a financial flop.

There will almost certainly be no sequel.
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Old March 20 2012, 03:20 AM   #17
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No doubt it's a disappointment that isn't going to bring in any meaningful profits for Disney, but that article doesn't say a thing about television sales. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but that's where movies make most of their money.

Of course, the article also points out that being a movie studio is less and less important for Disney, since they bring in the vast majority of their revenues (and an even greater majority of profits) from other sources.

There's definitely not going to be a sequel, though.
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Old March 20 2012, 03:23 AM   #18
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On the other hand, Starship Troopers is up to, what, 3 movies now? And there've been a number of other underperforming or straight bomb films that have received sequels. If there's a perceived demand someone could well do a direct-to-video sequel.
Starship Troopers had a budget of $105 million. The second film had a budget of $7 million and the third cost $20 million; the lack of money spent on the sequels show, painfully.

Is Disney even in the business of direct-to-DVD live-action sequels? Especially in the face of the sinking home video market, I'd say chances of a cheap DTV sequel are a long shot in the most optimistic of universes.
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Old March 20 2012, 04:31 AM   #19
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The John Carter sequels are probably going the way of "The Scorpion King" with Billy Zane in a supporting role and direct to dvds.
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Old March 20 2012, 04:37 AM   #20
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Well, again, those are released by Universal. Outside of their sausage factory of animated follow-ups, Disney doesn't seem to be in the business of releasing direct-to-DVD sequels. Or have I just missed them?
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Old March 20 2012, 05:09 AM   #21
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I just read on the news that John Carter of Mars is in third place.

What is with the doom and gloom tm.

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Old March 20 2012, 06:56 AM   #22
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I liked the movie very much, but honestly it doesn't require a sequel. Sure that Thern baddie is still out there, but the story told a fairly self contained story that had a satisfying ending.

What I am afraid of is that the failure John Carter will make it harder for other studios and directors to get their epic scope, epic budget, location heavy science fiction ideas greenlit.
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Old March 20 2012, 10:53 AM   #23
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No doubt it's a disappointment that isn't going to bring in any meaningful profits for Disney, but that article doesn't say a thing about television sales. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but that's where movies make most of their money.
Yeah, Disney's press release basically just states that they're not going to make any money off it this quarter. I'm sure the movie's gonna make its budget back eventually. Almost all studio movies do at some point.

Does anybody else find it strange that they would release this statement basically calling the movie a giant flop while the movie is still in theaters and actually doing quite well outside the US?
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Old March 20 2012, 11:20 AM   #24
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On the other hand, Starship Troopers is up to, what, 3 movies now? And there've been a number of other underperforming or straight bomb films that have received sequels. If there's a perceived demand someone could well do a direct-to-video sequel.
Starship Troopers had a budget of $105 million. The second film had a budget of $7 million and the third cost $20 million; the lack of money spent on the sequels show, painfully.

Is Disney even in the business of direct-to-DVD live-action sequels? Especially in the face of the sinking home video market, I'd say chances of a cheap DTV sequel are a long shot in the most optimistic of universes.
IMO, the script to Starship Troopers 2 was so bad that even a $70 million budget wouldn't have helped it. Presumably, the script to John Carter 2 could be at least as good as that to JC, since there's plenty of ERB where that came from. However, no doubt significantly fewer effects could hurt its prospects as a direct-to-DVD, though perhaps not among the core audience. Would it be enough to justify it? Who knows.

Still haven't seen ST3.
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Old March 20 2012, 11:48 AM   #25
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John Carter 2: the story of John's ten years on Earth looking for Therms never meeting an alien
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Old March 20 2012, 02:39 PM   #26
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JOHN CARTER is one of the best feature films that I've watched in a long time.

It is also a financial flop.

There will almost certainly be no sequel.
Agreed, agreed, agreed.

But.. the good thing is at least it is not crying out for one. It wrapped up very nicely and will stand alone for those who liked it very well.

It's going to look stonking on Blu Ray as well!
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Old March 20 2012, 02:49 PM   #27
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I will probably end shelling out for the Blu-ray if it's a longer Director's cut. I suspect that large chunks had been elided to get the running time down.
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Old March 20 2012, 03:15 PM   #28
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John Carter will get a sequel that will come out around the same time as Sky Captain 2.

I still haven't seen the movie yet - I keep seeing all the coverage of it being a flop, but haven't read much on the actual quality of the film. Is it worth seeing while its still in the theaters? I read all the JCOM novels voraciously as a teenager and was hopeful it might be a decent movie.
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Old March 20 2012, 03:25 PM   #29
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I'm a huge fan of the books, also of Tarzan, the Venus series, the Pellucidar series, basically anything by Edgar Rice Burroughs.
-but I haven't seen John Carter. I'm guessing it's terrible.
I imagine it's something like Prince of Persia or Pirates of the Caribbean- fun action vignettes strung together on a forgettable plot.

"Pirates" wasn't really my thing, so from my point of view, Disney has made three good live action movies since the seventies, Tron, Return to Oz and The Rocketeer.
A really terrible track record.
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Old March 20 2012, 03:47 PM   #30
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i enjoyed John Carter, but i don't ever expect a sequel. for fans to demand a sequel to a film that lost over $200 million dollars is not logical.
Fans acting logically?
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