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Old March 19 2012, 06:00 PM   #706
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Okay... you're just complaining to be complaining now. I guess that's your thing. Just wait until the movie comes out before psychoanalyzing it.
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Old March 19 2012, 06:13 PM   #707
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Forbes has an interesting article today:

With the exception of the occasional gem, like Children of Men in 2006, science fiction has been nothing if not predictable, derivative, and—as with the latest multi-million dollar sci-fi flop, John Carter—boring.
Well, I'm actually curious to see Children of Men now.

Regarding this film, I'm suspicious like I'm suspicious of any big-budget Hollywood effects film and will probably wait for video download.

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Old March 19 2012, 08:03 PM   #708
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Children of Men is a good movie. It reminds me a lot of the Charlton Heston sci-fi stuff like Soylent Green. In fact, you could easily switch out Clive Owen for Charlton and the movie would still work.
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Old March 19 2012, 09:46 PM   #709
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So, was just at the Weyland website reading the time line. Not sure this has been mentioned, having not read the 44 pages of this thread, but did anyone notice the timeline has a mistake? The company develops bullets made from material found in another solar system a year before they introduce the first FTL exploration vehicle.

Besides that, I find the entire timeline ridiculously too short for the advances made. Ignoring that though, the movie looks like it will be awesome.
Tertiary material like this is meant to get you excited for the film and is meant to fill in the gaps a little bit. Errors aren't unheard of.

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So this is like AvP, but better?
Its what AVP should have been the first place, presumably the missing piece of the puzzle.
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Old March 19 2012, 09:50 PM   #710
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"...it was a derelict spacecraft, it wasn't from there..."
- Ripley; Aliens

I'd like to see how Ridley Scott writes himself out of that one!

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Old March 19 2012, 09:57 PM   #711
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That TED presentation was epic. Presumably, this would be the son of Charles Bishop Weyland, though I doubt they'd mention any direct connections with the other series (AVP or Predator for that matter). I can still imagine it to be.
Me too.

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I think they're pretty much considering Charles Weyland from AVP to never have existed and having Peter Weyland as the company founder.
Not necessarily. Perhaps Peter is just picking up where Charles left off, as it were. There's nothing seen here that categorically denies Charles' existence, although I wouldn't expect this film to mention him (different writers?).
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Old March 19 2012, 10:02 PM   #712
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"...it was a derelict spacecraft, it wasn't from there..."
- Ripley; Aliens

I'd like to see how Ridley Scott writes himself out of that one!

The same way Gene handled Spock smiling in "The Cage".
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Old March 19 2012, 10:19 PM   #713
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And who's to say Ripley didn't just make a mistake?
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Old March 19 2012, 10:29 PM   #714
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That TED presentation was epic. Presumably, this would be the son of Charles Bishop Weyland, though I doubt they'd mention any direct connections with the other series (AVP or Predator for that matter). I can still imagine it to be.
Me too.

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I think they're pretty much considering Charles Weyland from AVP to never have existed and having Peter Weyland as the company founder.
Not necessarily. Perhaps Peter is just picking up where Charles left off, as it were. There's nothing seen here that categorically denies Charles' existence, although I wouldn't expect this film to mention him (different writers?).
Oh come on - Why all this contortion to fit this and AvP (of all films) into some grand plot. Do you think Ridley Scott really cares for what any AvP or any film maker did of the alien sequels?

No... The only connection will be to film "Alien" - if at all. There will still be PLENTY of contradictions in the films. It is clear that Scott is not viewing this as a direct sequel or prequel to the film. A lot of details will not match up. For one, LV-426(?) looks like a completely different planet. The technology does not match, nor will the timeline.

Ridley is merely making a film using a lot of the Alien ideas and designs, but not the 'xenomorph' itself. Trying to make it something more than that will just cause you headaches. Enjoy it for what it will be.
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Old March 19 2012, 10:30 PM   #715
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And who's to say Ripley didn't just make a mistake?
Her belief may have simply been based on evidence which indicated that the derelict crashed on the planetoid. That's something that seems like it's going to happen in Prometheus. The Nostromo crew didn't have the freedom to e.g. process samples brought back from the derelict, say for isotope comparisons with the planetoid, because their science officer was compromised.
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Old March 19 2012, 10:45 PM   #716
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Why all this contortion to fit this and AvP (of all films) into some grand plot. Do you think Ridley Scott really cares for what any AvP or any film maker did of the alien sequels?
I have no idea what Ridley Scott cares for.

Of course there's almost always contradictions in a long running series like this, but part of the fun is inventing ways to explain them. This may be "fanwank", but so what.

Even if Peter Weyland is explained as being the head *and the founder* of Weyland Industries, that's not necessarily a contradiction. Peter's obviously got one hell of an ego, so he probably just downplayed Charles' existence altogether and made himself look more important. I'm sure that happens a lot in real life corporations.
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Old March 19 2012, 10:58 PM   #717
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Well enjoy your fanwank then!
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Old March 19 2012, 11:02 PM   #718
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He's a replicant I tell you. He broke Charles' pinky then killed him.
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Old March 19 2012, 11:03 PM   #719
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Ridley is merely making a film using a lot of the Alien ideas and designs, but not the 'xenomorph' itself.
I've yet to see any evidence that the xenomorph will not be in Prometheus.
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