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Old March 14 2012, 07:32 PM   #601
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"Tyrion's source alerts him... to a mysterious secret weapon." If I recall, Tyrion came up with both the chain and the wildfire himself.
In the book Cersei ordered 10,000 jars of wildfire to be produced before Tyrion's arrival as Hand.
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Old March 14 2012, 11:57 PM   #602
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Episode #14: “Garden of Bones”
Debut: SUNDAY, APRIL 22 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Joffrey punishes Sansa for Robb’s victories, while Tyrion and Bronn scramble to temper the king’s cruelty. Catelyn entreats Stannis and Renly to forego their ambitions and unite against the Lannisters. Dany and her exhausted khalasar arrive at the gates of Qarth, a prosperous city with strong walls and rulers who greet her outside them. Tyrion coerces a queen’s man into being his eyes and ears. Arya and Gendry are taken to Harrenhal, where their lives rest in the hands of “The Mountain,” Gregor Clegane. Davos must revert to his old ways and smuggle Melisandre into a secret cove.
Written by Vanessa Taylor; directed by David Petrarca.
Guess that one's gonna be the first Big Mac of the season. Lot's of memorable stuff happenning there.
And it seems like they use the secret cove scene for Renly's assassination. So no siege of Storm's End, probably.
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Old March 15 2012, 04:50 AM   #603
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All of this stuff I'm hearing about Season 2 is really making me want to read A Clash of Kings. But I just realized that I have 119 books that I own but haven't read yet. I want to get that down by alot before I start buying books again.
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Old March 15 2012, 06:28 PM   #604
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Can I ask, Is the two paperbacks of A Dance with Dragons (Dreams and Dust and After the Feast) combined in the hardback version of A Dance of Dragons?
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Old March 15 2012, 06:31 PM   #605
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Can I ask, Is the two paperbacks of A Dance with Dragons (Dreams and Dust and After the Feast) combined in the hardback version of A Dance of Dragons?
Yes, the hardback has both.
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Old March 15 2012, 08:11 PM   #606
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Can I ask, Is the two paperbacks of A Dance with Dragons (Dreams and Dust and After the Feast) combined in the hardback version of A Dance of Dragons?
The split paperbacks they release in the UK are so bizarre. The books aren't THAT large.
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Old March 16 2012, 03:21 AM   #607
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^ IIRC, wasn't ASOS released in 4 books in France? Criminy!

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Old March 16 2012, 06:53 AM   #608
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They split every book into two volumes here in Germany as well. It's a little bit annoying but at least they're consistent and you know you have to get two books for every original release from the start.
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Old March 16 2012, 07:16 AM   #609
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They split every book into two volumes here in Germany as well. It's a little bit annoying but at least they're consistent and you know you have to get two books for every original release from the start.
Are they published at the time or do they make you wait for part II?
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Old March 16 2012, 01:04 PM   #610
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They make us wait a little bit, ADWD will be released in may and june. They released new translations of the old books to build up hype for the new one, that's why we're getting it a little bit later, the scond part of AFFC was just Re-released this month.

The new translations are controversial, they eliminated all english names and translated them into german (greyjoy became graufreud, riverrun schnellwasser etc.). I like the change, if the books are in german it makes no sense to keep english names in a fantasy setting that is not an english speaking country.
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Old March 16 2012, 04:09 PM   #611
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They make us wait a little bit, ADWD will be released in may and june. They released new translations of the old books to build up hype for the new one, that's why we're getting it a little bit later, the scond part of AFFC was just Re-released this month.

The new translations are controversial, they eliminated all english names and translated them into german (greyjoy became graufreud, riverrun schnellwasser etc.). I like the change, if the books are in german it makes no sense to keep english names in a fantasy setting that is not an english speaking country.
I can understand the translation of places, cities, castles or nicknames (Hebrew translation had that too), but translating family names? Doesn't sound right to me ... Did the new translation also changed Targaryen, Umber, Clegane and such into something else?
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Old March 16 2012, 06:56 PM   #612
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I can understand the translation of places, cities, castles or nicknames (Hebrew translation had that too), but translating family names? Doesn't sound right to me ... Did the new translation also changed Targaryen, Umber, Clegane and such into something else?
No, Targaryen is still Targaryen, they changed names when they are easilly recognizable as english words that the average german reader understands. That's why Greyjoy, Snow etc. were translated while Arryn, Lannister etc. remained unchanged.

It really makes a lot of sense to me, it's weird if you read a fantasy novel in german and suddenly stumble over someone named Jon Snow. The surname Snow makes no sense in that context, because the english language doesn't exist in Westeros.
It's like the translation of The Lord of the Rings where Tolkien instructed the translators to get rid of everything english.
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Old March 16 2012, 10:24 PM   #613
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Did they translate "Stark"? Because it exists in both german and english but with different meanings.
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Old March 17 2012, 12:12 AM   #614
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For those that are interested, here is a recent 3-part interview/Q&A (1.5 hrs) with GRRM, and at the end of part 3 he reads a new(?) chapter from "Winds of Winter":
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S51i0EANGA
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwdWUl25AU
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlJblxV3QHQ (the chapter reading starts at 30:20 mark)

The POV for the chapter is Victarion - sounds like the first or one of the first chapters of the book.

In part 3 he also gives his opinion on the recent Marvel film adaptations.
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Old March 17 2012, 03:14 AM   #615
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So...who believes the theory that Jon Snow is not the bastard son of Eddard Stark, but the son of Rhaegar Targaryn and Eddard's sister Lyanna?
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