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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
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Location: I have always been here
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
And seriously, if you don't like an episode that includes Garak, there's something wrong with you.
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Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
I can't understand how the holodeck exists in the Star Trek universe. Something that can create sentient beings quite easily, or kill whoever is inside whilst the ship has a convenient problem, just shouldn't exist in the first place. Or shouldn't allow the safety functions to ever be turned off. But then I suppose that would have deprived Trek writers the chance to have these stories so often. In a lot of cases that probably would have been a good thing though.
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Location: Ireland
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So I like what this episode does, it shows us that sometimes a good man like Sisko can get so caught up with a potential threat that they lose sight of what's really going on. He's willing to sacrifice his principles to implement security procedures that have never actually been proven to work. He even goes so far as to temporarily suspect his own father of being a Changeling just because he doesn't want to have his blood tested. Speaking of which, I really enjoyed that angle of the episode, seeing the three Siskos united for the first time on screen and their relationships with one another. I also liked seeing Nog in the academy. I could say more, but I think I'll hold off until the next part otherwise I might not have much to say tomorrow. Form of... a briefcase: 21 Form of... a potted plant: 22 Form of... a seagull: 23
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
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Location: Fairfax, VA
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
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Location: Satyrquaze
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
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Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
It's such a powerful political tool, and I appreciated that it was bought up in a way that DS9 does so well. I'd have them both as five star episodes myself, I like them more than Way of the Warrior, for example.
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Location: In here. In my mind.
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
Apparently the budget was stretched so thin at this point that Paradise Lost ended up being much less impressive than they had originally intended, as far as what they were able to show during the military takeover on earth. Would have been cool to see what they had in mind.
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Rear Admiral
Location: Ireland
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
Jaresh-Inyo is the worst President ever. Admittedly, we've only ever seen three Federation Presidents (excluding Archer), and one of those Presidents was the immortal Terry Pratchett so the bar is set pretty high, but Jaresh-Inyo is pretty bad. In the previous episode Sisko managed to convince him to completely change his opinion in a brief scene, in this episode Sisko does it again. Then, even though he's suspicious of Leighton and his security measures, he completely falls for the false blood-test that incriminates Sisko. I'm not saying that the guy should steadfastly hold to his convictions in spite of opposing evidence, but the speed at which he goes from one extreme to another without even an inkling of the political games that are being played under the surface makes him look rather foolish. My main problem with this episode is that it gives the game away too quickly in the beginning of the episode and then is forced to repeat itself in the second half to fill time. Rather than riding out some of the suspense that had built up in the first part, the very first scene of this episode reveals that all is not what it seems and that there's a conspiracy within Starfleet. Sisko figures out what's up too early in the episode so what's left are drawn out scenes of him agonising over having to turn in his friends and numerous scenes between Sisko and Leighton where both of them repeat the same points of view over and over again. It doesn't help that the episode didn't have the budget it needed to tell the story properly. This is a seminal moment in the Federation's history, a moment which could easily have led to civil war, but being forced to contain the action on a couple of small sets with only two of three actors at a time doesn't convey just how big a deal it is. I like what this episode tries to do, it's an interesting story where everyone is well-intentioned but some can't see the dangers in their actions, but the subject matter deserves better than the execution. This should have been one of the show's greatest moments, right up there with Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast, but it ends up being an enjoyable episode and little more, at least to me. It's not a bad episode, but it's a pity that it's not a great one. Form of... some equipment: 24 Stupid French Things: 3
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
Hello? Anyone still here?
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Rear Admiral
Location: Ireland
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
![]() Now if you'll excuse me, I'm about to kick some Reaper ass... by which I mean feeding homeless people.
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Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
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Re: TheGodBen Revisits Deep Space Nine
(I checked back here yesterday for the first time in a while. I've been otherwise pre-occupied by, erm, feeding the homeless too. )
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Location: I have always been here
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