RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,108
Posts: 5,400,230
Members: 24,744
Currently online: 485
Newest member: Ohwowmelody

TrekToday headlines

Trek Merchandise Sale
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek #39 Villain Revealed
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Trek Big Bang Figures
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek Seekers Cover Art
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Fan Film Axanar Kickstarter Success
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Two New Starship Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Actor Wins Emmy
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Retro Watches
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

New DS9 eBook To Debut
By: T'Bonz on Aug 25

Trek Ice Cube Maker and Shot Glasses
By: T'Bonz on Aug 25


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Misc. Star Trek > Trek Literature

Trek Literature "...Good words. That's where ideas begin."

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old March 7 2012, 02:40 AM   #1
Janos
Commander
 
Janos's Avatar
 
Location: Vanishing Point
View Janos's Twitter Profile
Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

What's technically the first ENT novel that takes place after the TV series finale? Is it the MACO one or the one with Trip on the cover? Sorry, I'm away from my laptop so don't have the titles handy.
__________________
Cheers,
John (Janos) Babos
Comics Nexus contributor & editor
Star Trek: New Frontier, DS9 relaunch & DTI lit fan
Janos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 02:43 AM   #2
The Wormhole
Admiral
 
The Wormhole's Avatar
 
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

The first post-finale novel is The Good That Men Do, which is also known as the one that re-wrote TATV.

The MACO one you mention is Last Full Measure, which actually takes place during the Xindi mission of season 3, but sets up a certain plot element which is a key point to the post-finale novels.
__________________
"Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.
The Wormhole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 03:33 AM   #3
ryan123450
Commodore
 
ryan123450's Avatar
 
Location: Woodward, OK
View ryan123450's Twitter Profile
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

It doesn't so much set it up as it teases it. Last Full Measure was published after TATV aired, and gave us a clue as to what direction the post-finale novels would take.
__________________

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
ryan123450 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 05:13 AM   #4
Sci
Admiral
 
Sci's Avatar
 
Location: "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

Last Full Measure by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin was published in 2006 and is set during ENT Season Three, but features a prologue and epilogue set in the 23rd Century that contains some teasers for how the post-finale ENT series would unfold.

The actual post-series novels are as follows:

- The Good That Men Do by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2007
- Kobayashi Maru by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2008
- The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing by Michael A. Martin: Published 2009
- The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm by Michael A. Martin: Published 2011
__________________
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it." - George Orwell, 1946
Sci is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 07:08 AM   #5
Miss Lemon
Fleet Captain
 
Miss Lemon's Avatar
 
Location: Miss Lemon is chasing dwarves in Middle-earth
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

Sci wrote: View Post
- The Good That Men Do by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2007
- Kobayashi Maru by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2008
- The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing by Michael A. Martin: Published 2009
- The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm by Michael A. Martin: Published 2011
I was wondering, are they any good?
__________________
Loyalty, honor and a willing heart... I can ask no more than that - Thorin Oakenshield

Hercule Poirot
: I am an imbecile. I see only half of the picture.
Miss Lemon: I don't even see that.
Miss Lemon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 09:18 AM   #6
Yevetha
Commodore
 
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

Me too.
Yevetha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 10:07 AM   #7
Therin of Andor
Admiral
 
Therin of Andor's Avatar
 
Location: New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
View Therin of Andor's Twitter Profile
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

Sci wrote: View Post
The actual post-series novels are as follows:

- The Good That Men Do by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2007
- Kobayashi Maru by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2008
- The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing by Michael A. Martin: Published 2009
- The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm by Michael A. Martin: Published 2011
And "Kobayashi Maru", of course, sets up an event followed up by the "Destiny" trilogy, an event based upon an image in a "Ships of the Line" calendar.

Miss Lemon wrote: View Post
I was wondering, are they any good?
Haven't read the two lone Martin books, but I've thoroughly enjoyed the post-ENT stories, and the Hoshi and MACO novels, too.
__________________
Thiptho lapth! Ian (Entire post is personal opinion)
The Andor Files @ http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/
Therin of Andor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 11:47 AM   #8
Relayer1
Commodore
 
Relayer1's Avatar
 
Location: The Black Country, England
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

There's been some negative reactions to the Romulan War stuff, but I've enjoyed all of these books. To Brave the Storm did suffer from being heavily cut back - it was originally going to be two longer books.
__________________
Soon oh soon the light, Pass within and soothe this endless night, And wait here for you, Our reason to be here...
Relayer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 11:57 AM   #9
Edit_XYZ
Fleet Captain
 
Edit_XYZ's Avatar
 
Location: At star's end.
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

Miss Lemon wrote: View Post
Sci wrote: View Post
- The Good That Men Do by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2007
- Kobayashi Maru by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2008
- The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing by Michael A. Martin: Published 2009
- The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm by Michael A. Martin: Published 2011
I was wondering, are they any good?
The good that men do - convoluted, regarding both writing style and plot.
The romulan war novels - underwhelming, especially when considering the subject.
Edit_XYZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 12:22 PM   #10
King Daniel Into Darkness
Admiral
 
King Daniel Into Darkness's Avatar
 
Location: England again
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

Miss Lemon wrote: View Post
Sci wrote: View Post
- The Good That Men Do by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2007
- Kobayashi Maru by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin: Published 2008
- The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing by Michael A. Martin: Published 2009
- The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm by Michael A. Martin: Published 2011
I was wondering, are they any good?
I'm afraid not. It's The Romulan Bore.

I loved Enterprise and was really looking forward to the post-series novels.
King Daniel Into Darkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 02:37 PM   #11
Christopher
Writer
 
Christopher's Avatar
 
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

Therin of Andor wrote: View Post
And "Kobayashi Maru", of course, sets up an event followed up by the "Destiny" trilogy, an event based upon an image in a "Ships of the Line" calendar.
Actually, no, it doesn't. That may have been the original intent, but the dates are off; what happens to Columbia at the end of Kobayashi Maru takes place a year before the events depicted in the first flashback chapter of Destiny: Gods of Night. And Columbia does appear in the first Romulan War book, disappearing midway through once the timeline of that book catches up to the events of Destiny.
__________________
Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Site update 4/8/14 including annotations for Rise of the Federation: Tower of Babel

Written Worlds -- My blog
Christopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 04:36 PM   #12
Reanok
Commodore
 
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

I like the Enterprise relaunch novels .I enjoyed reading them. I hope someday we'll have more Enterprise novels being published that during the tv series or another after the Romulan war there certainly storylines in the last novel taht left alot of unaswered questions that could be explored in another book .
Reanok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 04:50 PM   #13
8of5
Fleet Captain
 
8of5's Avatar
 
Location: Lincoln, UK
View 8of5's Twitter Profile
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

Relayer1 wrote: View Post
To Brave the Storm did suffer from being heavily cut back - it was originally going to be two longer books.
I'd say it benefited from it personally. I found the first Romulan War book really tedious, but found To Brave the Storm reasonably engaging; it managed to continue most of the many threads without labouring them.

Sadly I wouldn't put any of the post-TV Enterprise books in my favourite-Trek pile though; I've found them all rather mediocre. Which is a real shame as I was a big fan of the TV series.

To Brave the Storm seemed like a pretty definite ending to the series to me. So I'm curious to see where it goes next. If it goes anywhere at all.
__________________
Numerically Challenged Drone: Star Trek blog, 2013 books schedule, 2014 books schedule.
8of5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 05:56 PM   #14
Janos
Commander
 
Janos's Avatar
 
Location: Vanishing Point
View Janos's Twitter Profile
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

8of5 wrote: View Post
To Brave the Storm seemed like a pretty definite ending to the series to me. So I'm curious to see where it goes next. If it goes anywhere at all.
I haven't read the Romulan War books as I was anticipating a later omnibus. That said, I understood for some reason that the Romulan War was going to be at least 3 novels not 2. Isn't Brave the Storm just #2? Are there more RW books coming or (without major plot detail spoilers ) is the War over at the end of Brave the Storm?
__________________
Cheers,
John (Janos) Babos
Comics Nexus contributor & editor
Star Trek: New Frontier, DS9 relaunch & DTI lit fan
Janos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7 2012, 06:08 PM   #15
RANDY1888
Cadet
 
Re: Enterprise post tv finale relaunch

That's good question that I would like to know as well!
RANDY1888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:49 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.