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Old March 3 2012, 04:34 AM   #3601
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I'm still holding out hope that they'll just retcon the NewDCU away and go back to the old continuity Batman and GL didn't change, but I really don't like what they've done to the Super Family, to Superman or Supergirl or Superboy. How the JSA and the Teen Titans and the Birds of Prey were basically erased.
I still think the best way to do this would have been to just do the Marvel Ultimate Comics thing, and just run the New 52 as a separate line alongside the DCU comics.
If they go back to the old continuity like Marvel did after Heroes Reborn then I wouldn't be surprised to see a major alternate-continuity line within ten years.
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Old March 3 2012, 06:39 AM   #3602
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I'm still holding out hope that they'll just retcon the NewDCU away and go back to the old continuity
A vain hope. The old continuity is gone for good.
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Old March 3 2012, 08:04 AM   #3603
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^ You know this how exactly? I didn't know you worked at DC Editorial Dennis.
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Old March 3 2012, 08:30 AM   #3604
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^ You know this how exactly? I didn't know you worked at DC Editorial Dennis.
It's a reasonable supposition. The old continuity wasn't producing the results DC Entertainment wanted, so we got this reboot. If this doesn't work out they are more likely to try something else than go back to the previous continuity.
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Old March 3 2012, 08:37 AM   #3605
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I was being sarcastic. Dennis made it seem like fact. I'm well aware of the reasons why we got the relaunch...and the fact is we really do not know what DC would do if the relaunch falters. They could go back to the DCU or they could indeed go for a clear cut reboot, or do something else entirely. To say that the DCU is "gone forever" to me is an incorrect statement with no basis in fact.
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Old March 3 2012, 08:39 AM   #3606
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True, but unless this reboot fails spectacularly, which doesn't seem the case, I don't see any going back.
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Old March 3 2012, 09:03 AM   #3607
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the multiverse went away. then it came back. nothing is set in stone.
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Old March 3 2012, 09:22 AM   #3608
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^ Exactly.
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Old March 3 2012, 09:31 AM   #3609
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Sure, but it's not the continuity of the 70's and 80's, is it? I have no doubt a lot of what disappeared from the last continuity will reappear in new forms, like much came back in post-COIE DC, but it won't be the same as the previous continuity any more than post-COIE was the same as pre-COIE DC.
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Old March 3 2012, 12:33 PM   #3610
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Just by acknowledging that the old continuity ever existed this soon into the new continuity tells me that the old continuity will be revisited at some point at the very least.
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Old March 3 2012, 02:11 PM   #3611
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I thought I read that the DC numbers were quickly dropping to their old levels now that the new 52 excitement has worn off?
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Old March 3 2012, 05:25 PM   #3612
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Just by acknowledging that the old continuity ever existed this soon into the new continuity tells me that the old continuity will be revisited at some point at the very least.
Exactly my thoughts.
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Old March 3 2012, 06:40 PM   #3613
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^ Exactly.
The multiverse was a device from the past, it's not continuity itself.
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Old March 3 2012, 08:22 PM   #3614
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Pandora mentions in the splash pages (from the final issue of Flashpoint) that combine the three timelines to form the New 52 that Flash has to help her "fix" the timeline, implying that something is wrong. We don't know what that was supposed to refer to yet I don't believe.
I remember that - something about rejoining what should not have been sundered? That seems at odds with what the Stranger says here. Then again, it's not necessarily either/or: the timelines were supposed to be rejoined, but something about the way Zoom initiated it caused it to go wrong.

Then again I'm anal enough to be bothered by the suggestion that the Vertigo universe was unified: until I see Skinner Sweet fight Andrew Bennett, I'm not satisfied.
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No matter what they claimed I always refused to accept the idea that DC Vertigo was a separate world in the first place. As far as I'm concerned it was always the dark underbelly of the DCU.
The continuity status of the Vertigo titles is odd. It's (usually) pretty clear that The Sandman takes place in the DC Universe, and Lucifer quite clearly takes place in the same universe as The Sandman, but I can't believe that Lucifer takes place in the same reality as Action Comics. Venn diagrams of continuity, I suppose.
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Old March 3 2012, 08:29 PM   #3615
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^ I like that. The way I see it is that The Sandman (which I consider to be the genre's best lengthy series) is beholden only to the continuity that we see expressed in its pages, if that. The narrative seemed to take place in real time, which would obviously put it at odds with the "floating timeline" of the main DCU.
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